Questions:
1. Can smaller publishers get you out across your nation or is that
beyond
their reach? Or in other words, is their circulation to small?
2. Can you trust a smaller publisher to look out for your best
interests?
3. Do they push your book and advertise well enough? (I read one critic
say
that Shadow Mountain messed up with one author because they did not
give his
book the publicity push it needed)
4. Do smaller publishers pay the author less then bigger publishers?
1. It depends on the publisher. Now that we have amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com and alibris.com, the sky's the limit, but the publisher's ability to get your book on the shelves of stores on the other side of the country depends on the publisher's resources to do so.
2. About the same as you can trust any major publishing company. Meaning, not at all.
3. Again, depends upon the publishing house you're talking about and the resources they're willing to commit to your book. If you've heard bad things about a small publisher, stay away.
4. On the whole, yes. Much, much less.
Friday, October 27, 2006
Giving Someone First Look
When my novel was a work in progress, it was shortlisted in a competition. A couple of agents read the 25k words in existence then, and asked to see the novel when finished, as did a publisher.
It's now finished. I do want to follow up with the agents who read the work in progress, but I'd also like to not limit my options too early. Should I let the two agents read the full ms first before anyone else sees it, or would it be ok to send partials out to a few other agents at the same time? If I do, I assume I should tell them that the full ms is being considered elsewhere.
You can send out queries to other, random agents at the same time, and you don't have to tell the original agents you're doing that, but it's kind of rude. Honestly, if you have an "in" with a publisher and a couple of agents, try that first before blind-querying a bunch of other agents, unless you have someone specific in mind that you also want to try.
It's now finished. I do want to follow up with the agents who read the work in progress, but I'd also like to not limit my options too early. Should I let the two agents read the full ms first before anyone else sees it, or would it be ok to send partials out to a few other agents at the same time? If I do, I assume I should tell them that the full ms is being considered elsewhere.
You can send out queries to other, random agents at the same time, and you don't have to tell the original agents you're doing that, but it's kind of rude. Honestly, if you have an "in" with a publisher and a couple of agents, try that first before blind-querying a bunch of other agents, unless you have someone specific in mind that you also want to try.
Multiple Query Letters to the Same Agent
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it okay to send out seperate query letters out for each novel to the same agents at the same time? I'm not doing this, but I've read that it is done and might be useful to this questioner.
Uhh... I guess you could do that, but it would look a little odd. Seperate them by like a week or two.
Uhh... I guess you could do that, but it would look a little odd. Seperate them by like a week or two.
Thursday, October 26, 2006
A Typical Day's Mail
Today I decided to keep track of the mail so you can see a bit what the submissions are like.
2 Maybes - Both non-fiction. One was rejected immediately by my boss, the other placed back on the pile for more serious consideration.
The Rejections
3 Crazy Book Ideas - I am referring to not a person who is crazy, but the idea is crazy (it's different), though the person could very well be crazy for all I know. These queries, among my favorite, describe novels with plots that make no sense. ("These lovers get on a plane - and then a gorrilla comes out of fucking NOWHERE!!! and then it turns out he's invisible but he's still attacking them...") Or they are novels that are not properly described in any way that makes sense because the author rambles for about a page about other stuff, to the point where I wonder if he has written anything or is just lonely for return mail.
1 Famous Person That Can't Write - Many people who have achieved some mediocre amount of fame (in this case, as a popular sports radio personality) think they can translate whatever part of their career/act that made them famous into written form, and they are wrong. So wrong.
2 Manuscripts That Are Too Short - Seriously, if you're in fiction, don't go under 70k. Under 60k is an auto-reject, no matter what NaNaWriMo says about novel length. And definitely do NOT submit something that's 33,100 words.
1 Manuscript That Is Too Long - If you are in fiction or autobiography, please do not go far over 100k. Certainly, don't go over 120k. 240,000 words is just unacceptable. Auto-reject.
2 Crazy Christian Authors - Before I get a flood of hate replies, let me clarify. I am not referring to Christian inspiration, which is a legitimate genre that occasionally has good writers. I am referring to people who are obviously quite insane but are also all hopped up on Christ and have attempted to write a Christian inspirational novel, but their insanity slips through. One of them I remember featured a story about a town that re-introduced whipping as a form of punishment for sin. For two pages this guy went on about whipping and sin and Christ and more whipping, to the point that I was just suspicious.
1 Christian Inspiration - I forget whether this was someone's non-fiction autobiography about discovering their path to religion or fiction with the same plot, but the point is, it's not a genre we handle. No offense meant, but auto-reject.
1 Ex-Military Guy - And this guy wasn't from Iraq, either, though we see a lot of those. This guy was in the Korean war or something. Yes, you went to war. That doesn't qualify you to write about it, unless you can make it interesting. Unfortunately, you didn't.
2 Fiction About a Woman Discovering Herself - otherwise known as "chick-lit." Plus, one of them was about a woman who found out she was a lesbian over the course of the book.
1 Generic Self-Help - Hint: the words "generic" and "touching" don't go well together.
1 Just Plain Crazy Guy - I don't know what crazy guy's novel is about, because he doesn't usually get to it until the third page of his 16-size font rant, and it's only a brief summary. Before he gets there, he decides to discuss a bunch of non-related events in his life that are apparently supposed to be either hilarious or bitterly hilarious about the publishing industry and how it doesn't appreciate real literature, because this guy has CLEARLY written it, and that's why he has no punctuation.
2 Maybes - Both non-fiction. One was rejected immediately by my boss, the other placed back on the pile for more serious consideration.
The Rejections
3 Crazy Book Ideas - I am referring to not a person who is crazy, but the idea is crazy (it's different), though the person could very well be crazy for all I know. These queries, among my favorite, describe novels with plots that make no sense. ("These lovers get on a plane - and then a gorrilla comes out of fucking NOWHERE!!! and then it turns out he's invisible but he's still attacking them...") Or they are novels that are not properly described in any way that makes sense because the author rambles for about a page about other stuff, to the point where I wonder if he has written anything or is just lonely for return mail.
1 Famous Person That Can't Write - Many people who have achieved some mediocre amount of fame (in this case, as a popular sports radio personality) think they can translate whatever part of their career/act that made them famous into written form, and they are wrong. So wrong.
2 Manuscripts That Are Too Short - Seriously, if you're in fiction, don't go under 70k. Under 60k is an auto-reject, no matter what NaNaWriMo says about novel length. And definitely do NOT submit something that's 33,100 words.
1 Manuscript That Is Too Long - If you are in fiction or autobiography, please do not go far over 100k. Certainly, don't go over 120k. 240,000 words is just unacceptable. Auto-reject.
2 Crazy Christian Authors - Before I get a flood of hate replies, let me clarify. I am not referring to Christian inspiration, which is a legitimate genre that occasionally has good writers. I am referring to people who are obviously quite insane but are also all hopped up on Christ and have attempted to write a Christian inspirational novel, but their insanity slips through. One of them I remember featured a story about a town that re-introduced whipping as a form of punishment for sin. For two pages this guy went on about whipping and sin and Christ and more whipping, to the point that I was just suspicious.
1 Christian Inspiration - I forget whether this was someone's non-fiction autobiography about discovering their path to religion or fiction with the same plot, but the point is, it's not a genre we handle. No offense meant, but auto-reject.
1 Ex-Military Guy - And this guy wasn't from Iraq, either, though we see a lot of those. This guy was in the Korean war or something. Yes, you went to war. That doesn't qualify you to write about it, unless you can make it interesting. Unfortunately, you didn't.
2 Fiction About a Woman Discovering Herself - otherwise known as "chick-lit." Plus, one of them was about a woman who found out she was a lesbian over the course of the book.
1 Generic Self-Help - Hint: the words "generic" and "touching" don't go well together.
1 Just Plain Crazy Guy - I don't know what crazy guy's novel is about, because he doesn't usually get to it until the third page of his 16-size font rant, and it's only a brief summary. Before he gets there, he decides to discuss a bunch of non-related events in his life that are apparently supposed to be either hilarious or bitterly hilarious about the publishing industry and how it doesn't appreciate real literature, because this guy has CLEARLY written it, and that's why he has no punctuation.
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
If You Don't Know Your Genre...
I am from India and my novel is set in contemporary India. It doesn't
fall into a conventional genre like
romance/thriller/historical/sci-fi, etc. and I am apprehensive about
calling it literary fiction as it isn't all that high brow.
Would my best bet be querying agents who handle multicultural fiction,
or is there some other category I should look out for?
Basically, I am looking for an answer to: You should query agents who
handle _______ genre. Please fill in the blanks.
It is probably contemporary fiction. Unless the agent's profile specifically indicates that they only handle specific genres (agents who only do sci-fi/fantasy, agents who only do romance, etc - but there's very few of them), go ahead and query.
fall into a conventional genre like
romance/thriller/historical/sci-fi, etc. and I am apprehensive about
calling it literary fiction as it isn't all that high brow.
Would my best bet be querying agents who handle multicultural fiction,
or is there some other category I should look out for?
Basically, I am looking for an answer to: You should query agents who
handle _______ genre. Please fill in the blanks.
It is probably contemporary fiction. Unless the agent's profile specifically indicates that they only handle specific genres (agents who only do sci-fi/fantasy, agents who only do romance, etc - but there's very few of them), go ahead and query.
Those Darn Assistants! (Again)
Wow, I've always wanted to ask this question. I seem to be a hit with assistants. They email, they've even called (freaky!). They always say they're going to pass my ms. on to the boss ASAP and that's when the crickets start to chirp. I can't wait for this generation of assistants to graduate to "boss." Of course, their mail will be screened by a new generation of assistants--assistants who might hate my work. Chirp, chirp.
I would like to point out that my answer to this is almost unrelated to the previous post because it discusses assistants, not assistants who are in the middle of becoming sub-agents.
In general, assistants do not request material on their own (unless they really push for it, which never works anyway). Even if they sign their name, they're doing it for the boss, because the boss wants to see it. The slowdown is unrelated. It's because agents are busy people and have a lot of other things to do, and so the partials and fulls pile up. I've got partials sitting at agencies for approaching a year now. (That's unofficially a rejection) So don't worry that it's the problem of who the boss has hired. It's a problem of the boss's busy schedule.
I would like to point out that my answer to this is almost unrelated to the previous post because it discusses assistants, not assistants who are in the middle of becoming sub-agents.
In general, assistants do not request material on their own (unless they really push for it, which never works anyway). Even if they sign their name, they're doing it for the boss, because the boss wants to see it. The slowdown is unrelated. It's because agents are busy people and have a lot of other things to do, and so the partials and fulls pile up. I've got partials sitting at agencies for approaching a year now. (That's unofficially a rejection) So don't worry that it's the problem of who the boss has hired. It's a problem of the boss's busy schedule.
Assistants as Agents
After a lot of research, I e-queried a well-known NY agent who has represented literary fiction that I feel is similar to mine. After several weeks, I had a very nice note from her assistant telling me how much she loved my first fifty pages and to please send a full. There was no mention of the agency owner, to whom my query had been addressed. I've sent it off and am continuing with my next novel and my queries on novel #1. Assuming--and this is a big assumption, I know--the assistant loves the full as much as the first fifty, what is likely to happen? I don't want to ask her directly at this point for fear of insulting her. Will the agency owner become involved? I looked up the assistant and she's listed on the agency website as actively seeking new clients (as is the owner). I can make certain assumptions about the owner based on her track record, but have no information on the assistant. She's young (no offense) and new to NY (after college). How can she possibly have the contacts the owner would have? Is it common for a response addressed to an owner to come from an assistant?
There are two main paths to becoming agent. The first is to work in a publishing house as an editor or a publicist for 20 years, burn out, and leave in a flurry of frustration about not being able to work with authors and having all of your projects crushed by upper management. The person takes all their contacts with them and becomes an agent, usually by joining a larger agency, and then breaking off when they have the client list to do so. This is the traditional way.
Today more and more people are jumping right from being assistants of agents to being sub-agents at that agency or a different one. I suspect the shift is largely because agencies are more likely to take on interns and assistants with no experience to help them get into publishing than a large, intimidating publishing company is, so more and more people start their careers at agencies (instead of publishing houses) and decide to stay.
If the assistant is listed as "taking on clients" for herself, then she is in the middle of making the transformation from assistant to sub-agent. Sub-agents get to use the name and resources of the head agent, which helps them get in doors and make contacts and have weight to throw around, but they also have to give a cut to the head agent. Eventually, they either build a client list strong enough to become a full agent (at that agency or elsewhere) or they don't and head into a different sector of publishing.
If the assistant is interested in being your agent, she's doing so with the tutelage of the head agent, so I wouldn't worry about it. She's also more likely to be agressively taking on clients because she needs to build a list to stay afloat financially if she's no longer being paid a salary like true assistants are.
I'm an assistant with no desire to move up the ladder because I don't actually want to be an agent. I don't particularly like working with contracts, bookkeeping, or publicity. I want to edit material, which is why I'll eventually end up in the editorial department of a publishing company, but I don't plan on making that jump until I finish graduate school.
There are two main paths to becoming agent. The first is to work in a publishing house as an editor or a publicist for 20 years, burn out, and leave in a flurry of frustration about not being able to work with authors and having all of your projects crushed by upper management. The person takes all their contacts with them and becomes an agent, usually by joining a larger agency, and then breaking off when they have the client list to do so. This is the traditional way.
Today more and more people are jumping right from being assistants of agents to being sub-agents at that agency or a different one. I suspect the shift is largely because agencies are more likely to take on interns and assistants with no experience to help them get into publishing than a large, intimidating publishing company is, so more and more people start their careers at agencies (instead of publishing houses) and decide to stay.
If the assistant is listed as "taking on clients" for herself, then she is in the middle of making the transformation from assistant to sub-agent. Sub-agents get to use the name and resources of the head agent, which helps them get in doors and make contacts and have weight to throw around, but they also have to give a cut to the head agent. Eventually, they either build a client list strong enough to become a full agent (at that agency or elsewhere) or they don't and head into a different sector of publishing.
If the assistant is interested in being your agent, she's doing so with the tutelage of the head agent, so I wouldn't worry about it. She's also more likely to be agressively taking on clients because she needs to build a list to stay afloat financially if she's no longer being paid a salary like true assistants are.
I'm an assistant with no desire to move up the ladder because I don't actually want to be an agent. I don't particularly like working with contracts, bookkeeping, or publicity. I want to edit material, which is why I'll eventually end up in the editorial department of a publishing company, but I don't plan on making that jump until I finish graduate school.
The point of this blog, which has apparently been missed
oh, please! all you rant and rave about is how much you hate this way that writers address a label to an agent or how stupid writers look if they mention in their query where they read about an agent, and you want us to act as if we care separately about you! ha!
guess what? I don't care about you. I don't care about your agency or your boss or anything else that has to do with you. I don't give a fig about your stupid assistant's position or any or your dumb griping. the only thing I care about is writing and my novel. Until you or anyone else at an agency wants to represent my work the last thing I'm going to worry about is your supposed feelings.
This is forced marching thorough the slimy ranks of commerce for most writers. get that? You have to act as though you care about us, the people responsible for you having your job in the first place, before I'll even consider treating you as anything other than just another possible agency.
At various points people have privately suggested that I disable anonymous comments in my settings, because all of the ranters seem to be named "Anonymous." (I didn't even know that was such a popular baby name) The truth of the matter is it doesn't bother me. It's a reaction of frustration. I am, after all, the rejecter of their work, and by implication, a rejection of them as a person, because their work is a part of themselves. I'm the person you're probably going to get mad at. Various people in my MFA program have come up to me and said, "How do you do your work with a clear conscience?" The answer is always, "Well, we accept the good writers and get them published. We reject the bad ones because we can't sell their work. It's really not a moral issue."
The purpose of my "ranting and raving" (see above) is to point out the various mistakes people make that either annoy us or make the writer look stupid, and you don't want to look stupid. A query is like a job interview - you want to be wearing your best suit and answer all the questions right, because you want this person to at some point give you money, and maybe a health plan with a low co-pay.
The things I discuss here are lessons to prevent you, the writer, from shooting yourself in the foot. If you only care about your writing and don't give a lick of your time to thinking about how to present it to an agent, I don't know why you are looking for an agent and I don't know why you're reading this blog. Since I'm the gatekeeper, my "feelings" (see above again) should actually be a pretty major consideration. It mystifies me when I offer advice and people say, "Well, I'm just not going to listen to that and keep doing what I was doing, even though you just said, at great length, why I shouldn't do it." If you're a writer seeking an agent, you should probably listen to what agents and their assistants have to say.
If you just want to write, that's fine. Join an MFA program, or save money and take an adult education writing workshop at your local high school (They're about the same level of education, but the latter is less pretentious). Have fun. Write some fan fiction - I love fan fiction. But don't come to me and ask for my advice about getting a professional agent if you have no intention of listening to it.
guess what? I don't care about you. I don't care about your agency or your boss or anything else that has to do with you. I don't give a fig about your stupid assistant's position or any or your dumb griping. the only thing I care about is writing and my novel. Until you or anyone else at an agency wants to represent my work the last thing I'm going to worry about is your supposed feelings.
This is forced marching thorough the slimy ranks of commerce for most writers. get that? You have to act as though you care about us, the people responsible for you having your job in the first place, before I'll even consider treating you as anything other than just another possible agency.
At various points people have privately suggested that I disable anonymous comments in my settings, because all of the ranters seem to be named "Anonymous." (I didn't even know that was such a popular baby name) The truth of the matter is it doesn't bother me. It's a reaction of frustration. I am, after all, the rejecter of their work, and by implication, a rejection of them as a person, because their work is a part of themselves. I'm the person you're probably going to get mad at. Various people in my MFA program have come up to me and said, "How do you do your work with a clear conscience?" The answer is always, "Well, we accept the good writers and get them published. We reject the bad ones because we can't sell their work. It's really not a moral issue."
The purpose of my "ranting and raving" (see above) is to point out the various mistakes people make that either annoy us or make the writer look stupid, and you don't want to look stupid. A query is like a job interview - you want to be wearing your best suit and answer all the questions right, because you want this person to at some point give you money, and maybe a health plan with a low co-pay.
The things I discuss here are lessons to prevent you, the writer, from shooting yourself in the foot. If you only care about your writing and don't give a lick of your time to thinking about how to present it to an agent, I don't know why you are looking for an agent and I don't know why you're reading this blog. Since I'm the gatekeeper, my "feelings" (see above again) should actually be a pretty major consideration. It mystifies me when I offer advice and people say, "Well, I'm just not going to listen to that and keep doing what I was doing, even though you just said, at great length, why I shouldn't do it." If you're a writer seeking an agent, you should probably listen to what agents and their assistants have to say.
If you just want to write, that's fine. Join an MFA program, or save money and take an adult education writing workshop at your local high school (They're about the same level of education, but the latter is less pretentious). Have fun. Write some fan fiction - I love fan fiction. But don't come to me and ask for my advice about getting a professional agent if you have no intention of listening to it.
Tuesday, October 24, 2006
The Breakout Novel
Good idea/bad idea?
You've written two novels. Maybe even two different genres. Novel A is your favorite, the one you'd like to "break out" with, but novel B would probably appeal more to agents. You send queries, attract an agent and receive an offer for novel B. Now that you have an agent, Is it a bad idea to let them know you'd rather see novel A in print first?
Your "break out" novel is the novel that is published first. I don't know why you think one will appeal more to agents, but if you send out Novel B and they accept novel B, it means they want to sell novel B to publishers and you should shut up about A until you've got a contract in your hands for B. It doesn't matter in what order your books are printed unless they're part of a series. Get in print any way you can.
This is assuming, of course, that the novels are equal in quality. If you love A but actually isn't as good as B, A will probably not be published until you make it better.
Your "break out" novel is the novel that is published first. I don't know why you think one will appeal more to agents, but if you send out Novel B and they accept novel B, it means they want to sell novel B to publishers and you should shut up about A until you've got a contract in your hands for B. It doesn't matter in what order your books are printed unless they're part of a series. Get in print any way you can.
This is assuming, of course, that the novels are equal in quality. If you love A but actually isn't as good as B, A will probably not be published until you make it better.
Manuscript or query?
I read that when attempting to sell a first manuscript, you need to send the full manuscript to agencies/agents, and not just a query letter.
Also, is it okay to send the manuscript to another agency after after a few months, or even at the same time? I’ve read that you should, and that you shouldn’t. It seems to me that because it’s exceptionally hard to get a first book published, and because most manuscripts are rejected, that it’d be best to send them to multiple places. On the other hand, I read that agencies hate this. Which is it?
First of all, I don't know where you read that, but you should send a query letter first unless you read on the agent's website to do otherwise. Don't go wildly sending out your manuscript unsolicited. It's expensive and it won't get you anywhere. In fact, it will probably annoy us.
You are permitted to send material to multiple agencies at the same time. In fact, we pretty much assume you're doing it and that all submissions are simultaneous submissions unless the query is from someone who knows the agent personally. If you're blind-querying us, we assume you're blind-querying at least 10 other people at the same time. When I used to work in a building with five agencies in one complex, we would get the mail in a big pile and the interns would sort it, and we would often see the same letters quite obviously going to every agency there on the same day, because the font would be the same or the envelope would be the same. If you're going to query multiple agents at the same address, at least have the decency to spread it out by a couple of days and give the appearance that you care about us specifically.
Also, is it okay to send the manuscript to another agency after after a few months, or even at the same time? I’ve read that you should, and that you shouldn’t. It seems to me that because it’s exceptionally hard to get a first book published, and because most manuscripts are rejected, that it’d be best to send them to multiple places. On the other hand, I read that agencies hate this. Which is it?
First of all, I don't know where you read that, but you should send a query letter first unless you read on the agent's website to do otherwise. Don't go wildly sending out your manuscript unsolicited. It's expensive and it won't get you anywhere. In fact, it will probably annoy us.
You are permitted to send material to multiple agencies at the same time. In fact, we pretty much assume you're doing it and that all submissions are simultaneous submissions unless the query is from someone who knows the agent personally. If you're blind-querying us, we assume you're blind-querying at least 10 other people at the same time. When I used to work in a building with five agencies in one complex, we would get the mail in a big pile and the interns would sort it, and we would often see the same letters quite obviously going to every agency there on the same day, because the font would be the same or the envelope would be the same. If you're going to query multiple agents at the same address, at least have the decency to spread it out by a couple of days and give the appearance that you care about us specifically.
"Stable"
Does the phrase "stable author" mean an author who is not unstable, or a member of the agent's stable?
(I'm pretty sure it just means a trusted author/one that's been signed. I'm just wondering about the origin of the phrase)
I don't know the actual origin of the phrase, but it does not refer to the fact that the author is stable, mentally or in terms of output. It prefers to the fact that they are part of the "stable" of reliable earners on the client list. To be perfectly honest, I think "stable" is supposed to invoke the idea of ... a place where you keep horses.
....Yeah, I'm kind of grossed out, too.
(I'm pretty sure it just means a trusted author/one that's been signed. I'm just wondering about the origin of the phrase)
I don't know the actual origin of the phrase, but it does not refer to the fact that the author is stable, mentally or in terms of output. It prefers to the fact that they are part of the "stable" of reliable earners on the client list. To be perfectly honest, I think "stable" is supposed to invoke the idea of ... a place where you keep horses.
....Yeah, I'm kind of grossed out, too.
The Multi-Book Story Problem
I am a first-time author shopping my MS around to various agents (since most major houses don't accept unsolicited MS's anymore anyway). But the entire story is actually three books. I mention this in my query letter as a matter of fairness but I'm wondering how many agents look at that and say, "Three books to tell your story? Forget it!"
I've had five agents request partials, one request the MS and one who recommended I submit it to another agent, so it's getting some action. But if first-time authors *NEVER* get a three-book deal, I'm thinking of setting this project aside and starting something else. Thoughts?
P.S. Rejecter? Or Rejector? ;-)
"Rejecter" is the correct spelling, but I kind of like the idea that I'm some kind of rejecting robot - "REJECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Multi-book stories are fairly normal in certain genres, mainly fantasy, particularly high fantasy. If you book is not fantasy, you're in trouble, and you may just want to make it into one long book. (It's the same story, isn't it? Why isn't it one book?) If it's some kind of historical epic, it's allowed to be excessively long. If it's a mystery, it's supposed to be relatively short. It all depends on your genre.
(If it is high fantasy, do not name the first book "The Prophecy." We've seen that a million times and it's honestly getting annoying. Trust me)
I've had five agents request partials, one request the MS and one who recommended I submit it to another agent, so it's getting some action. But if first-time authors *NEVER* get a three-book deal, I'm thinking of setting this project aside and starting something else. Thoughts?
P.S. Rejecter? Or Rejector? ;-)
"Rejecter" is the correct spelling, but I kind of like the idea that I'm some kind of rejecting robot - "REJECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Multi-book stories are fairly normal in certain genres, mainly fantasy, particularly high fantasy. If you book is not fantasy, you're in trouble, and you may just want to make it into one long book. (It's the same story, isn't it? Why isn't it one book?) If it's some kind of historical epic, it's allowed to be excessively long. If it's a mystery, it's supposed to be relatively short. It all depends on your genre.
(If it is high fantasy, do not name the first book "The Prophecy." We've seen that a million times and it's honestly getting annoying. Trust me)
Actually, I heard phone lines twist and turn a lot
Hi Rejecter. What about if a well-known and successful best-selling author who has read some of your work, (because he happens to be a mate) gives you the direct phone number to an agent he knows, whom he thinks will like your work, and tells you to give this agent a call, mentioning that you are a friend of his? Wouldn't it then be churlish and insulting to assume that you, as a first time novelist, know better and to use another form of communication?
I don't know what this "direct phone number" is (all phone lines are pretty much the same), but I've had this happen before, where a friend of a client of the agent or a friend of a friend of the agent calls in. The appropriate way to do it is to have your author friend give the agent a heads up that you'll be calling and make sure the agent agrees to the call. Your friend should be the one initiating the phone relationship. Otherwise, just mention the author in your query letter.
I don't know what this "direct phone number" is (all phone lines are pretty much the same), but I've had this happen before, where a friend of a client of the agent or a friend of a friend of the agent calls in. The appropriate way to do it is to have your author friend give the agent a heads up that you'll be calling and make sure the agent agrees to the call. Your friend should be the one initiating the phone relationship. Otherwise, just mention the author in your query letter.
Agent 404 Message
Maybe THIS is why I can't reach my agent on the phone when I need to tell her that my editor has just asked me to send that proposal ASAP. Only problem with e-mail is apparently they don't answer that in a prompt fashion, either.I e-mailed first, waited for a week, called, left a voice mail, waited some more ... so finally I just put the proposal in the mail myself. Reading this, I don't know whether I'm steamed at the droves of people calling or the agent for not at least listening/reading messages. Miss Rejecter, what would you have advised me to do in my aforementioned situation? Have I burnt my bridges with my agent?
If she/he is your agent and you are their client, and the editor you're speaking of is an editor at a publishing house, you have every right to pester them. Once you are a client with a contract you can do that sort of thing. Your agent should be answering you.
If she/he is your agent and you are their client, and the editor you're speaking of is an editor at a publishing house, you have every right to pester them. Once you are a client with a contract you can do that sort of thing. Your agent should be answering you.
Monday, October 23, 2006
A Message From Agents and Assistants Everywhere
Dear potential clients/authors:
Stop calling us.
Seriously. We do not want your phone calls. We do not want the phone calls where you call to "confirm the address of the agency" (as if it's written WRONG somewhere) and then begin to pitch your book while we're on the line. We're on to you. We know your tricks. The phone line is for business purposes. It's gotten to the point where many agents don't pick up their phones, including my boss, unless they recognize the name/number - which is bad, because my boss doesn't have caller ID and can never remember my number, so I can't even call in sick because she won't pick up the phone. I have to email her.
There are established ways to reach us: by post or occasionally by email. Please use those methods. I think I speak for almost every agent when I say this.
Stop calling us.
Seriously. We do not want your phone calls. We do not want the phone calls where you call to "confirm the address of the agency" (as if it's written WRONG somewhere) and then begin to pitch your book while we're on the line. We're on to you. We know your tricks. The phone line is for business purposes. It's gotten to the point where many agents don't pick up their phones, including my boss, unless they recognize the name/number - which is bad, because my boss doesn't have caller ID and can never remember my number, so I can't even call in sick because she won't pick up the phone. I have to email her.
There are established ways to reach us: by post or occasionally by email. Please use those methods. I think I speak for almost every agent when I say this.
I love it, she hates it.
Dear Ms. Rejecter,
When an assistant *loves* a manuscript she reads for her boss, to what extent is this a predictor that the agent will eventually offer representation?
It's certainly an indicator that the writing is great, and since we're talking about a full, the agent was probably interested in it to begin with and so I would say the chances are high. If it's just a query or an unrequested partial that I happen to love, it won't necessarily help the author, because no matter how much I love it, the boss has to love it, too. And my job isn't about my tastes; it's about my boss's tastes.
It's certainly an indicator that the writing is great, and since we're talking about a full, the agent was probably interested in it to begin with and so I would say the chances are high. If it's just a query or an unrequested partial that I happen to love, it won't necessarily help the author, because no matter how much I love it, the boss has to love it, too. And my job isn't about my tastes; it's about my boss's tastes.
Losing Manuscripts
Madam Rejector,
Thank you a thousand times for your time, insight, and courageous candor in answering some of our more burning, writerly questions.
I have read stories of manuscripts being lost. Literally vanishing somewhere within the confines of an agent's office. I currently have a full manuscript out with a HUGE agent at a HUGE agency. They requested my manuscript via email and I am now, as has been a little over an entire month since I sent it off that it might have been deleted in error or printed and then lost. Any insight? Does this ever really happen?
A Quibbling Submitor
I have seen a number of agents' offices, and while I am sure there are exceptions to the rule, I have yet to see an office that was not a huge mess of manuscripts, partials, books, packaging to send out books, files on contracts, and several pieces of broken furniture or lamps that don't work. So, obviously, we lose stuff. More accurately, we put stuff somewhere to get it out of the way and then we forget about it. All white paper in stacks kind of look alike, especially when they're squeezed between two proofs for the stable author's new book and a folder of receipts from the agent's trip to the convention in Frankfurt.
In your case, I think it's very unlikely that the agency has lost it. They got it by email, and if they did print the whole thing, then they would have two copies. A month simply isn't enough time to expect an agent to review a full manuscript. Wait a couple more months and then send a brief email to ask (politely) if they have the material.
Thank you a thousand times for your time, insight, and courageous candor in answering some of our more burning, writerly questions.
I have read stories of manuscripts being lost. Literally vanishing somewhere within the confines of an agent's office. I currently have a full manuscript out with a HUGE agent at a HUGE agency. They requested my manuscript via email and I am now, as has been a little over an entire month since I sent it off that it might have been deleted in error or printed and then lost. Any insight? Does this ever really happen?
A Quibbling Submitor
I have seen a number of agents' offices, and while I am sure there are exceptions to the rule, I have yet to see an office that was not a huge mess of manuscripts, partials, books, packaging to send out books, files on contracts, and several pieces of broken furniture or lamps that don't work. So, obviously, we lose stuff. More accurately, we put stuff somewhere to get it out of the way and then we forget about it. All white paper in stacks kind of look alike, especially when they're squeezed between two proofs for the stable author's new book and a folder of receipts from the agent's trip to the convention in Frankfurt.
In your case, I think it's very unlikely that the agency has lost it. They got it by email, and if they did print the whole thing, then they would have two copies. A month simply isn't enough time to expect an agent to review a full manuscript. Wait a couple more months and then send a brief email to ask (politely) if they have the material.
Let's Clear This Up Right Now
So apparently in order to stop the deluge of emails, I must clear this up.
Mr. Agent
Mr. Agent Agency
1000 Broadway Avenue
New York, NY 10002
The FIRST LINE is to indicate what agent you want it to go to within the agency. The SECOND line is to indicate which agency you want it to go to. The THIRD and FOURTH lines are the address, which tells the United States Postal Service where to send your letter by those mysterious numbers at the end.
If Mr. Agency Agency has subagents you are querying, you write it like this:
That Sub-Agent Who Never Comes In to the Office
Mr. Agent Agency
1000 Broadway Avenue
New York, NY 10002
Then we know who the letter is supposed to go to. If you write the address correctly, you do not need to add the word ATTN:. We are not going to say, "This seems to be addressed to the sub-agent, but I'll show it to the boss, because I am no smarter than a monkey with a severe neurological disorder."
G-d.
Mr. Agent
Mr. Agent Agency
1000 Broadway Avenue
New York, NY 10002
The FIRST LINE is to indicate what agent you want it to go to within the agency. The SECOND line is to indicate which agency you want it to go to. The THIRD and FOURTH lines are the address, which tells the United States Postal Service where to send your letter by those mysterious numbers at the end.
If Mr. Agency Agency has subagents you are querying, you write it like this:
That Sub-Agent Who Never Comes In to the Office
Mr. Agent Agency
1000 Broadway Avenue
New York, NY 10002
Then we know who the letter is supposed to go to. If you write the address correctly, you do not need to add the word ATTN:. We are not going to say, "This seems to be addressed to the sub-agent, but I'll show it to the boss, because I am no smarter than a monkey with a severe neurological disorder."
G-d.
Sunday, October 22, 2006
Things People Do That Are Just Plain Stupid #2
#2 is writing ATTN: on the envelope.
The envelope will go to the person who it's addressed to, until my understanding of the postal system is severely mistaken. Yet, many people feel compelled to add a line such as this:
Agenta McAgent
ATTN: Agenta McAgent
Agenta McAgent Literary Agency
999 East 28th Street
New York, NY 10001
The intention is obviously to try to bypass the "lackey" (me) and land right on the agent's desk, as if our mail is processed by a machine designed to such things, or as if I am as dumb as bricks. I have never once seen an ATTN line (or anything else meant to indicate who it's supposed to go to beyond the address) and said, "My G-d, this is clearly a query letter not meant for me, the person in charge of reading query letters, but for my boss, who is busy on the phone with an editor. I'd better interrupt her phone conversation to pass this on." We're on to you. I do the queries unless I'm out of town. No amount of sneaky tactics can change that.
Actually, there are some envelopes I pass on immediately to my boss when I sort the mail. These are known in agent-speak as "bills."
The envelope will go to the person who it's addressed to, until my understanding of the postal system is severely mistaken. Yet, many people feel compelled to add a line such as this:
Agenta McAgent
ATTN: Agenta McAgent
Agenta McAgent Literary Agency
999 East 28th Street
New York, NY 10001
The intention is obviously to try to bypass the "lackey" (me) and land right on the agent's desk, as if our mail is processed by a machine designed to such things, or as if I am as dumb as bricks. I have never once seen an ATTN line (or anything else meant to indicate who it's supposed to go to beyond the address) and said, "My G-d, this is clearly a query letter not meant for me, the person in charge of reading query letters, but for my boss, who is busy on the phone with an editor. I'd better interrupt her phone conversation to pass this on." We're on to you. I do the queries unless I'm out of town. No amount of sneaky tactics can change that.
Actually, there are some envelopes I pass on immediately to my boss when I sort the mail. These are known in agent-speak as "bills."
Sending an Agent Revisions
Dear Rejector,
First off, I am enjoying your site so much! It's very, very enlightening.
Okay, question.:) I have had a full out to an agent for about five months. Due to some excellent feedback during that time I have done some major revisions. I mean major. Not one hundred words or so per chapter, I mean only about 45% of the original book is still in the new version. Total rehaul. And it is so much better. But if I write to the agent that has the full and say, "well, I have a better version for you now," do I look like a total flake? Should I wait till she responds and hope she offers to look at revisions? I'm hoping you have an answer since you menitoned you often read revisions.
I have mixed feelings about how to answer this question. She's had it for a long time, so that's a factor, but just last Thursday my boss was complaining about this crazy author who sends her like another revision every week and tells her not to read the old one. She's been through four now.
The real answer is that you shouldn't send off work unless it's totally polished and the way you want it to look when it's published, but 5 months is a long time for you to gain new perspective and let other people weigh in. This is why I let my own manuscripts sit for about a year before I begin to edit them.
You do risk annoying the agent, but if it's way better, you risk losing them by having them not like the earlier (and I'm assuming, crappier) version. I would take a gamble and email the agent about the revision. Don't send until you hear a reply. Also, start querying other agents. Don't put your eggs in one basket. Unless, I guess, it's some kind of egg basket.
First off, I am enjoying your site so much! It's very, very enlightening.
Okay, question.:) I have had a full out to an agent for about five months. Due to some excellent feedback during that time I have done some major revisions. I mean major. Not one hundred words or so per chapter, I mean only about 45% of the original book is still in the new version. Total rehaul. And it is so much better. But if I write to the agent that has the full and say, "well, I have a better version for you now," do I look like a total flake? Should I wait till she responds and hope she offers to look at revisions? I'm hoping you have an answer since you menitoned you often read revisions.
I have mixed feelings about how to answer this question. She's had it for a long time, so that's a factor, but just last Thursday my boss was complaining about this crazy author who sends her like another revision every week and tells her not to read the old one. She's been through four now.
The real answer is that you shouldn't send off work unless it's totally polished and the way you want it to look when it's published, but 5 months is a long time for you to gain new perspective and let other people weigh in. This is why I let my own manuscripts sit for about a year before I begin to edit them.
You do risk annoying the agent, but if it's way better, you risk losing them by having them not like the earlier (and I'm assuming, crappier) version. I would take a gamble and email the agent about the revision. Don't send until you hear a reply. Also, start querying other agents. Don't put your eggs in one basket. Unless, I guess, it's some kind of egg basket.
Licking Envelopes - the Secret Truth
I always send self-sealing envelopes. I'm sure the agencies appreciate having them to send my rejections.
YES WE DO. Every time I see that self-sealing flap, my mind cries a little "Yes!" We certainly don't hold it against authors if they use traditional envelopes, but yes, I am licking them. And yes, I have diseases, and no, Herpes Simplex I is not an STD, it's something you get if you have a lowered immune system because you're on an immuno-suppressant (Damn you 6-MP!), stop looking at my cold sore, it's not what you think!
...But I digress. Germs and bacteria die when the envelope dries. I think you would have to eat the envelope within an hour of my licking it to actually pick up my cold, and to my knowledge, people are not in the habit of eating envelopes as much as just throwing them in the trash.
What we really despise is people who enclose an SASE from some stationary package, where the envelope is too small to fit the return letter unless we fold it up a million times. Don't do that.
YES WE DO. Every time I see that self-sealing flap, my mind cries a little "Yes!" We certainly don't hold it against authors if they use traditional envelopes, but yes, I am licking them. And yes, I have diseases, and no, Herpes Simplex I is not an STD, it's something you get if you have a lowered immune system because you're on an immuno-suppressant (Damn you 6-MP!), stop looking at my cold sore, it's not what you think!
...But I digress. Germs and bacteria die when the envelope dries. I think you would have to eat the envelope within an hour of my licking it to actually pick up my cold, and to my knowledge, people are not in the habit of eating envelopes as much as just throwing them in the trash.
What we really despise is people who enclose an SASE from some stationary package, where the envelope is too small to fit the return letter unless we fold it up a million times. Don't do that.
New Writers - Why We Seem to Hate Them
Dear Ms. Rejector,
I just discovered your blog, and I love it! Here's my question. If an author gets a contract from a small press and contacts agents to see if any of them are interested, what is the dollar figure under which agents wouldn't even bother? I'm assuming if a publisher offers no advance and only royalties, they would say no thanks?? Or do I have that wrong? Depends on the agent?
There's definitely not a single answer to this, but if you have the contract in hand, the agent will probably not pass up what is essentially a free handout if she likes the material. You did her work for her; now she just picks up the check, but you get to land an agent for future material.
Let's do some basic math, as it will help everyone understand why agents are so hesitant to take on new writers.
The average advance from a major publishing company for a first-time novelist is $5000-$7000. If the agent is good, they can get it up to $10,000. If the agent is really good (and the material is really good) then the agent will try to get a bidding war going between publishing houses, which will drive the price way higher, but that usually doesn't happen.
Let's say the agent got you a $10,000 advance from a major publishing company. That nets her $1500. That may seem like a lot of money to us broke writers, but remember she has to make a living doing this. Since you're a new author, she probably had to talk the book up quite a lot, and spent time editing it or hired an assistant to do that. Time is money in publishing, so she probably spent at least $500 worth of time just getting that contract. And she won't expect royalties unless the book magically takes off, which most books don't, and she only gets 15% of those. So, essentially, she nets maybe $1000 for a lot of hard work. To make a decent living, she would have to take on at least 50 new authors a year, and new authors cost too much time for that to be physically possible.
Essentially, an agent usually takes on a fiction author because he/she cares deeply about the work and hopes it will succeed, but figures that it probably won't be an earner for her. If the author is rejected from major publishing houses, and she still truly cares about the book (which she may just be frustrated with at this point), she might take it to a small house offering little or no advance and be done with it. It makes the author happy and the book goes in print. And then she can move on to other projects.
I just discovered your blog, and I love it! Here's my question. If an author gets a contract from a small press and contacts agents to see if any of them are interested, what is the dollar figure under which agents wouldn't even bother? I'm assuming if a publisher offers no advance and only royalties, they would say no thanks?? Or do I have that wrong? Depends on the agent?
There's definitely not a single answer to this, but if you have the contract in hand, the agent will probably not pass up what is essentially a free handout if she likes the material. You did her work for her; now she just picks up the check, but you get to land an agent for future material.
Let's do some basic math, as it will help everyone understand why agents are so hesitant to take on new writers.
The average advance from a major publishing company for a first-time novelist is $5000-$7000. If the agent is good, they can get it up to $10,000. If the agent is really good (and the material is really good) then the agent will try to get a bidding war going between publishing houses, which will drive the price way higher, but that usually doesn't happen.
Let's say the agent got you a $10,000 advance from a major publishing company. That nets her $1500. That may seem like a lot of money to us broke writers, but remember she has to make a living doing this. Since you're a new author, she probably had to talk the book up quite a lot, and spent time editing it or hired an assistant to do that. Time is money in publishing, so she probably spent at least $500 worth of time just getting that contract. And she won't expect royalties unless the book magically takes off, which most books don't, and she only gets 15% of those. So, essentially, she nets maybe $1000 for a lot of hard work. To make a decent living, she would have to take on at least 50 new authors a year, and new authors cost too much time for that to be physically possible.
Essentially, an agent usually takes on a fiction author because he/she cares deeply about the work and hopes it will succeed, but figures that it probably won't be an earner for her. If the author is rejected from major publishing houses, and she still truly cares about the book (which she may just be frustrated with at this point), she might take it to a small house offering little or no advance and be done with it. It makes the author happy and the book goes in print. And then she can move on to other projects.
Fiction vs. Nonfiction - FIGHT!
My question is about nonfiction books, which make up many of the query letters you recieve. How do nonfiction queries differ from fiction queries? Is the publishing process the same?
The queries are still a basic one-page deal, but the author usually spends a lot more time discussing their credentials to write this book than they would in a fiction query. Where it starts to differ is when the agent asks for more material. In fiction, it'll usually be a couple chapters and maybe a synopsis. In nonfiction, it will likely be a proposal, which is a long and formal thing discussing chapter content, source material, credentials, and discussion of marketing possibilities in comparison to other books on the market with the same topic.
Every once in a while a fiction author sends material in the format of a nonfiction proposal - discussing all the things I mentioned above. This is totally ridiculous. We just want to see your writing. Send that unless the agent specifically says "I want a proposal."
The publishing process is generally the same, except the advances are generally higher in non-fiction but the editing process is much longer, as it often involves checking source material and getting permission from other media to use their pictures/content.
The queries are still a basic one-page deal, but the author usually spends a lot more time discussing their credentials to write this book than they would in a fiction query. Where it starts to differ is when the agent asks for more material. In fiction, it'll usually be a couple chapters and maybe a synopsis. In nonfiction, it will likely be a proposal, which is a long and formal thing discussing chapter content, source material, credentials, and discussion of marketing possibilities in comparison to other books on the market with the same topic.
Every once in a while a fiction author sends material in the format of a nonfiction proposal - discussing all the things I mentioned above. This is totally ridiculous. We just want to see your writing. Send that unless the agent specifically says "I want a proposal."
The publishing process is generally the same, except the advances are generally higher in non-fiction but the editing process is much longer, as it often involves checking source material and getting permission from other media to use their pictures/content.
The "Voice" of the Story
Dear Rejecter:If the story is related to the scandal or incredibly similar, you will probably get a lot of rejections. Prepare yourself for them and move on to another project while waiting.
I got a recent rejection of a partial that noted the agent didn't like "the
voice of this story." As you surely know, writer's obsess over rejections
and try to read them like blueprints to tell us what to fix. What does
this mean? Can the "voice" be fixed - or should it? Are the odds high
that if one agent hated the voice others will too, or might one agent's
"bad voice" be another's favorite melody?
It could mean nothing. It might be a form letter answer. However,
voice is very important to a story, even if you have an omniscent
narrator. The wayyou choose words sets the tone, which should
line up with the story you want to tell. If you're writing a pot-boiler,
it has to have sort of dark and smoky undertones. That sort of
thing.
A second question - unless there's a limit of one to a customer. If
I've written a story that comes out at the same time as a in-the-news-daily
high profile, political scandal, and my story ([G-d] bless me - the
MS was finished and I started querying a short day or two before the
wholebru-ha-ha), will the scandal help or hurt the agent-attracting
prospects?
The Right Novel, The Wrong Time
You wrote: But it's hard to say to an author, "Look, this is just the right novel at the wrong time."
I'm wondering: Is one reason this is hard to say because it's something an author should be aware of without needing to be told? (That one should not try to market a hurricane story while FEMA is still muddling things in the news, for example.)
No, it's hard to say because it's hard to tell a writer you're killing their literary baby because of some market-related issue.
I'm wondering: Is one reason this is hard to say because it's something an author should be aware of without needing to be told? (That one should not try to market a hurricane story while FEMA is still muddling things in the news, for example.)
No, it's hard to say because it's hard to tell a writer you're killing their literary baby because of some market-related issue.
A Very Important Note
Earlier in this blog (G-d I hate that word) I stated that it's okay to email queries to agents if you the address from a major website. Miss Snark pointed out to me that it's fairly hard to tell what's a major website or a reliable source of material (See my post on Writer's Digest).
I would like to amend my comment and say that you should email a query after checking an agent's website. Also, AgentQuery is very respectable and the agent will list on their profile if they are accepting email queries. Ignore other information.
My apologies to the other agents and assistants out there.
I would like to amend my comment and say that you should email a query after checking an agent's website. Also, AgentQuery is very respectable and the agent will list on their profile if they are accepting email queries. Ignore other information.
My apologies to the other agents and assistants out there.
Getting My Job
Dear Ms. Rejector,
About a year ago now, I was fortunate enough to be able to get a volunteer position working as an Assistant editor at a small online magazine. After a year of wading through the slushpile, I've discovered that I really love this sort of work. Probably I'm quite batty, but if one is going to handle the written word in any form, that may be an advantage. My question--which may be nitwittery worthy of Miss Snark, but, anyway--is this: how would you go about getting a job which actually paid you to do this? Volunteer is very nice and all, but I'd love to be able to read slushpiles AND pay the bills.
Ask current/previous employers if they would give you a reference. Try to get one in writing. Then look on craig's list. Average pay is $10/hour, no benefits. Or you could go for an editorial assistant in a publishing company, which would have a salary and benefits. It sounds like you have the experience to land a job like that.
About a year ago now, I was fortunate enough to be able to get a volunteer position working as an Assistant editor at a small online magazine. After a year of wading through the slushpile, I've discovered that I really love this sort of work. Probably I'm quite batty, but if one is going to handle the written word in any form, that may be an advantage. My question--which may be nitwittery worthy of Miss Snark, but, anyway--is this: how would you go about getting a job which actually paid you to do this? Volunteer is very nice and all, but I'd love to be able to read slushpiles AND pay the bills.
Ask current/previous employers if they would give you a reference. Try to get one in writing. Then look on craig's list. Average pay is $10/hour, no benefits. Or you could go for an editorial assistant in a publishing company, which would have a salary and benefits. It sounds like you have the experience to land a job like that.
Memorable Queries
I do have a question for you: Has there been a query letter that sticks out in your mind as one you will remember for many years? (something so wrong it was humorous? something so wrong it was frightful? something so wonderful that you were deeply impressed?) If so, would you mind sharing that with us?
Most of my favorite queries fall neatly into a category, like the author is crazy, the author knows nothing about how to make sentences make sense, or the plot is immediately derived from a movie they just saw. And of course, psychic lesbian detectives. If possible, I make a photocopy or keep the original query. I have a binder full of them.
Unfortunately, scruples prevent me from just reposting them in full here, but I will discuss them when I talk about things that make me laugh.
Most of my favorite queries fall neatly into a category, like the author is crazy, the author knows nothing about how to make sentences make sense, or the plot is immediately derived from a movie they just saw. And of course, psychic lesbian detectives. If possible, I make a photocopy or keep the original query. I have a binder full of them.
Unfortunately, scruples prevent me from just reposting them in full here, but I will discuss them when I talk about things that make me laugh.
Saturday, October 21, 2006
Responding to Rejections
I think I'll speak for many writers. YES, we DO want to know if it sucked. We DO want to know what's wrong. We DON'T want to be treated nicely. If you told us the truth, we'd re-write, get into crit groups, work on it. With this type of reply, all we can think is that you're not the right agent and we keep sending out the same schlock.
Please tell us when it's crap.
So, I've decided that either you are the most thick-skinned writer in the history of literature or you have not actually sent any of your stuff out yet.
Everybody says they can take it. I say I can, that it's not personal, but really, I'm crushed by their nice reply. G-d forbid they would have actually told me I was terrible writer the first time I tried to submit to publishing companies, when I was 14. I was a terrible writer, but at least they didn't say that, and I kept writing.
Writers DO take it personally. I know this because we occasionally receive an angry reply to our rejection, or a phone call, which is why we don't pick up the phone a lot unless we recognize the number.
Oh, and then there's Rejection Collection, a bastion of maturity and sense. Actually it's people venting their frustration, and there's nothing wrong with that, but usually they're complaining about the wording of the form letter without realizing it's just a form letter. IT'S A FORM LETTER. It just means "no." Don't try and analyze it.
Plus, I got in a lot of trouble for making a comment once to that effect, like serious trouble. The guy called the AAR and reported my boss as having bad business practices. She had to counter it. It was a mess. So forget it. I'm keeping my job, thank you very much.
Please tell us when it's crap.
So, I've decided that either you are the most thick-skinned writer in the history of literature or you have not actually sent any of your stuff out yet.
Everybody says they can take it. I say I can, that it's not personal, but really, I'm crushed by their nice reply. G-d forbid they would have actually told me I was terrible writer the first time I tried to submit to publishing companies, when I was 14. I was a terrible writer, but at least they didn't say that, and I kept writing.
Writers DO take it personally. I know this because we occasionally receive an angry reply to our rejection, or a phone call, which is why we don't pick up the phone a lot unless we recognize the number.
Oh, and then there's Rejection Collection, a bastion of maturity and sense. Actually it's people venting their frustration, and there's nothing wrong with that, but usually they're complaining about the wording of the form letter without realizing it's just a form letter. IT'S A FORM LETTER. It just means "no." Don't try and analyze it.
Plus, I got in a lot of trouble for making a comment once to that effect, like serious trouble. The guy called the AAR and reported my boss as having bad business practices. She had to counter it. It was a mess. So forget it. I'm keeping my job, thank you very much.
A Typical Day
Woah! I am a little backed up with emails and questions after Miss Snark's awesome endorsement. I apologize if your question gets lost in the shuffle. Now, onto the questions.
What is a typical day for you? How many query letters or query emails do you receive? Do you read them all that day? How long does it take your boss to review the 5% you pass on? How long to respond with a final rejection or request for ms? Is yours a typical agency?
A typical day for me begins with me oversleeping and rushing to the subway without remembering to bring lunch. Then I buy some overpriced soda on the street because man, you do not want to lick envelopes without something to change the taste in your mouth. Then I forget the code to get into the office building and it takes a few tries for me to get it before I can get in.
I only come in once or twice a week. My boss, on average, recieves anywhere from 5 to 20 queries a day, which is fairly low but because she mainly does non-fiction and that generates less queries than fiction. Despite that, most of our queries are fiction or autobiographies. I usually handle the week's mail first, which has piled up in my absense. The mail is opened very carefully so that SASEs are not lost or mixed up with other ones. The maybes go in a pile for the boss, and the rest are rejected, put their envelopes, and sent off that day. (I believe strongly in not making people wait more than necessary)
Other jobs include some record-keeping in terms of tax-deductible office expenses. Occasionally I have to check a contract against a standard contract from that company and note any differences, as publishing companies are notorious for inserting or removing a crucial line to their boilerplate contract in hopes that the agent won't catch it. An average contract is a good ten to twenty pages of legalese, so this is an intensely annoying job, but it has to be done.
Very often my boss has me read partials or whole manuscripts, either because she wants me to look them over first in case they are so obviously bad that she doesn't need to bother with them or because she needs a second opinion. Occasionally I copyedit the manuscripts of new clients. She spends most of the day on the phone or at the computer (she does a lot of work by email because she has many international clients and does a lot of foreign rights), handling whatever's necessary to promote her client list. Often this means yelling at or comforting crazy clients who don't get their work in on the date they promised or are calling to complain that the champagne at their last book party was too warm. (I wish I was kidding, but if your books are pulling in half a million dollar advances, you get to do that kind of shit) She also goes on those infamous three-hour agent lunches with house editors, which don't involve eating slowly so much as talking about a manuscript nonstop.
Occasionally she has me sort paperwork or bundle books to be shipped out to foreign agents, but there's very little of that.
Her response time will vary hugely, depending on what author is having what crisis or what book fair is coming up. Rejections are usually faster than acceptances, especially if the partial is really bad. On a slow week she'll get to a lot of partials. When a client has hit the bestseller list, she'll be on the phone day and night telling everyone everywhere and arranging for him/her to be interviewed by radio shows and TV shows and partials will stack up. So it's really unpredictable.
My day ends whenever I finish whatever there is to do around the office. I don't have a computer and we share the same single-room office from a larger office space so it's fairly difficult to pretend I'm busy when there's no work to do. This may explain the low numbers in my checking and savings accounts.
What is a typical day for you? How many query letters or query emails do you receive? Do you read them all that day? How long does it take your boss to review the 5% you pass on? How long to respond with a final rejection or request for ms? Is yours a typical agency?
A typical day for me begins with me oversleeping and rushing to the subway without remembering to bring lunch. Then I buy some overpriced soda on the street because man, you do not want to lick envelopes without something to change the taste in your mouth. Then I forget the code to get into the office building and it takes a few tries for me to get it before I can get in.
I only come in once or twice a week. My boss, on average, recieves anywhere from 5 to 20 queries a day, which is fairly low but because she mainly does non-fiction and that generates less queries than fiction. Despite that, most of our queries are fiction or autobiographies. I usually handle the week's mail first, which has piled up in my absense. The mail is opened very carefully so that SASEs are not lost or mixed up with other ones. The maybes go in a pile for the boss, and the rest are rejected, put their envelopes, and sent off that day. (I believe strongly in not making people wait more than necessary)
Other jobs include some record-keeping in terms of tax-deductible office expenses. Occasionally I have to check a contract against a standard contract from that company and note any differences, as publishing companies are notorious for inserting or removing a crucial line to their boilerplate contract in hopes that the agent won't catch it. An average contract is a good ten to twenty pages of legalese, so this is an intensely annoying job, but it has to be done.
Very often my boss has me read partials or whole manuscripts, either because she wants me to look them over first in case they are so obviously bad that she doesn't need to bother with them or because she needs a second opinion. Occasionally I copyedit the manuscripts of new clients. She spends most of the day on the phone or at the computer (she does a lot of work by email because she has many international clients and does a lot of foreign rights), handling whatever's necessary to promote her client list. Often this means yelling at or comforting crazy clients who don't get their work in on the date they promised or are calling to complain that the champagne at their last book party was too warm. (I wish I was kidding, but if your books are pulling in half a million dollar advances, you get to do that kind of shit) She also goes on those infamous three-hour agent lunches with house editors, which don't involve eating slowly so much as talking about a manuscript nonstop.
Occasionally she has me sort paperwork or bundle books to be shipped out to foreign agents, but there's very little of that.
Her response time will vary hugely, depending on what author is having what crisis or what book fair is coming up. Rejections are usually faster than acceptances, especially if the partial is really bad. On a slow week she'll get to a lot of partials. When a client has hit the bestseller list, she'll be on the phone day and night telling everyone everywhere and arranging for him/her to be interviewed by radio shows and TV shows and partials will stack up. So it's really unpredictable.
My day ends whenever I finish whatever there is to do around the office. I don't have a computer and we share the same single-room office from a larger office space so it's fairly difficult to pretend I'm busy when there's no work to do. This may explain the low numbers in my checking and savings accounts.
Friday, October 20, 2006
Dumb Mistakes Follow-up
To continue the thought, how do you feel about a person mentioning a book the agent represents--saying something like, "I learned you are the agent for X book, which in a way is similar to mine-"
Advice is given all the time to do this--to go to a bookstore and find books that are "like" yours--find the agent and proceed.
Is this now annoying because people beat it to death?
It's okay. Some agents like it because they know it's not a form query that has been sent out to a million agencies. The rest of us don't really care, but aren't bothered by it, so I would recommend doing it.
Advice is given all the time to do this--to go to a bookstore and find books that are "like" yours--find the agent and proceed.
Is this now annoying because people beat it to death?
It's okay. Some agents like it because they know it's not a form query that has been sent out to a million agencies. The rest of us don't really care, but aren't bothered by it, so I would recommend doing it.
Thursday, October 19, 2006
Things People Do That Are Just Plain Stupid #1
(Please note that this is different from "Things that make me laugh." These things do not make me laugh, or piss me off. I'm neutral about them, but it doesn't mean you should do them)
A lot of query suggestion websites recommend personalizing the letter by letting the agent know how you heard about them. This ONLY applies to people who know the agent through a special methods, like a convention meeting or they know a client of the agent.
Many people have, in their desperation and desire to listen to advice, written things like, "I found your agency in Writer's Digest." Well, of course you did. You had to get our name and address from somewhere and that's the first place people look besides the internet. It's like saying, "I learned about your agency from a phone book."
That's what Writer's Digest is: a phone book. It contains names, addresses, and other contact info the agent wishes to be made public, like an email address or a phone number. It also contains what genres the agent handles, and then a bunch of statistics that I'm pretty sure they just make up. I don't know of a single agent who can say off-hand what percentage of their client list is new authors, and I don't know of a single agent who's willing to put in the time to figure it out for Writer's Digest. Writer's Digest is full of filler, bad advice, and listings for unscrupulous agencies and writing contests. And, there's a decent chance that by the time it comes out, the information is invalid. Agents are always moving around, joining up or breaking off from larger agencies, or going out of business. Things happen very fast in New York City. I honestly would go to AgentQuery.com.
And if you do go there, don't mention it in your query letter.
A lot of query suggestion websites recommend personalizing the letter by letting the agent know how you heard about them. This ONLY applies to people who know the agent through a special methods, like a convention meeting or they know a client of the agent.
Many people have, in their desperation and desire to listen to advice, written things like, "I found your agency in Writer's Digest." Well, of course you did. You had to get our name and address from somewhere and that's the first place people look besides the internet. It's like saying, "I learned about your agency from a phone book."
That's what Writer's Digest is: a phone book. It contains names, addresses, and other contact info the agent wishes to be made public, like an email address or a phone number. It also contains what genres the agent handles, and then a bunch of statistics that I'm pretty sure they just make up. I don't know of a single agent who can say off-hand what percentage of their client list is new authors, and I don't know of a single agent who's willing to put in the time to figure it out for Writer's Digest. Writer's Digest is full of filler, bad advice, and listings for unscrupulous agencies and writing contests. And, there's a decent chance that by the time it comes out, the information is invalid. Agents are always moving around, joining up or breaking off from larger agencies, or going out of business. Things happen very fast in New York City. I honestly would go to AgentQuery.com.
And if you do go there, don't mention it in your query letter.
E-Query Question
Pretty much everything says to treat it as a professional business letter (easy enough if you have a snail mail one written). But what kind of information would be expected in the subject line?
Generally, something like "Query - [Book Name]." If they don't have hard and fast guidelines, don't worry that much about it. Also, if you personally know the agent or are beginning referred by a client, mention it there so that we flag it in the inbox.
Generally, something like "Query - [Book Name]." If they don't have hard and fast guidelines, don't worry that much about it. Also, if you personally know the agent or are beginning referred by a client, mention it there so that we flag it in the inbox.
Wednesday, October 18, 2006
Trends - Why You Should Ignore Them
Do you have an opinion on the fiction market? A couple years ago, I seemed to get a better response from my query. This past year, with a better project, I got less interest. I’ve also had some agents tell me they no longer represent fiction. What do you think the future holds? All I seem to see out there are non-fiction and memoirs involving pets.
I don't know what the future of the fiction market is. What I do know is that you should write your manuscript independent of any trends or other work you see, because by the time you see those books on the shelves, we're sick of them (not the books themselves, but the trend) and not taking many new ones. Also, the story (or non-fiction discussion) should be something you care about, not something to capitalize on a trend.
A year ago we were getting tons of thrillers that somehow involved the Vatican, and stuff about New Orleans and/or Katrina. We rejected all of it immediately. The words "Dan Brown" appearing anywhere on your query meant an auto-reject. Why? Because we knew the market was going to cool off, which it did, and we stopped getting those queries when everyone forgot about Katrina and when the Da Vinci Code movie came out and it sucked.
There's usually a fairly direct parallel between what's on the NY Times bestseller list and what kind of queries we're getting. #5 right now in hardcover non-fiction is "Marley & Me," which is, and I quote, "A newspaper columnist and his wife learn some life lessons from their neurotic dog." Political books always sell, and you can basically make a living right now - a GOOD living - representing anti-Bush books. Inspirational stuff always sells, but lately it's been more Christian-themed.
On the fiction list, I see a huge variety of topics, which is normal for the fiction list. I'm actually surprised at the number of names I don't recognize; generally bestsellers are by famous authors. John le Carre is #13. Laurell K. Hamilton is #8. We're also seeing more British imports than usual.
None of what I just said in the last three paragraphs matters to you writers. Write what you love and want to write about. Write a book you would want to read. Then polish it, write a good query letter, and send it out to at least 40 agents. If it's a great book, at least a few of them will be interested, regardless of what's going on in publishing.
I don't know what the future of the fiction market is. What I do know is that you should write your manuscript independent of any trends or other work you see, because by the time you see those books on the shelves, we're sick of them (not the books themselves, but the trend) and not taking many new ones. Also, the story (or non-fiction discussion) should be something you care about, not something to capitalize on a trend.
A year ago we were getting tons of thrillers that somehow involved the Vatican, and stuff about New Orleans and/or Katrina. We rejected all of it immediately. The words "Dan Brown" appearing anywhere on your query meant an auto-reject. Why? Because we knew the market was going to cool off, which it did, and we stopped getting those queries when everyone forgot about Katrina and when the Da Vinci Code movie came out and it sucked.
There's usually a fairly direct parallel between what's on the NY Times bestseller list and what kind of queries we're getting. #5 right now in hardcover non-fiction is "Marley & Me," which is, and I quote, "A newspaper columnist and his wife learn some life lessons from their neurotic dog." Political books always sell, and you can basically make a living right now - a GOOD living - representing anti-Bush books. Inspirational stuff always sells, but lately it's been more Christian-themed.
On the fiction list, I see a huge variety of topics, which is normal for the fiction list. I'm actually surprised at the number of names I don't recognize; generally bestsellers are by famous authors. John le Carre is #13. Laurell K. Hamilton is #8. We're also seeing more British imports than usual.
None of what I just said in the last three paragraphs matters to you writers. Write what you love and want to write about. Write a book you would want to read. Then polish it, write a good query letter, and send it out to at least 40 agents. If it's a great book, at least a few of them will be interested, regardless of what's going on in publishing.
Email Queries
Agh. The Rejecter is recovering from the same cold everyone in NYC had last week. The Rejecter is behind. The Rejecter is wondering why she is talking about herself in the third person.
I would be interested to know what your agency's stance is on email, whether you accept email queries or not. Many agent's emails are listed on agents.query even when they don't accept email submissions. I've heard writers having success contacting those agents anyway.
It seems to me that if an agency is really serious about new writers, they ought to be accepting emails rather than snail mail exclusively. I'm disappointed but I think it's great when a well-known agent emails back & says, no thanks. I'd take a quick no over a 3 months of not hearing any day.
Then's there is the question of pasting in a couple pages or a chapter at the bottom of an email query. Some agents request this, others don't. I know etiquette says don't do it if not requested. But if the agent/assistant is on the fence, then the sample may tickle their fancy. If they were going to reject you anyway, they won't bother reading....
The answer to your initial question varies widely from agency to agency. Four or five years ago, when an agent said they weren't taking email queries, it didn't mean they didn't own a computer. It just meant they didn't use it for work and didn't want to. Now most agents do use computers for work - to contact other agents, clients, editors, and whoever. More and more publishing houses are talking to agents through email. More and more revisions of a manuscript are being sent as an email attachment. In a year or two, it will basically become essential for an agent to have a computer in their office and use it for work.
Queries are a different manner. Initially, agents were against them. Sometimes we feel like it's removing that one last barrier between us and unwanted submissions by idiots who haven't thought out their material and haven't researched how to present it. I mean, if you have to print out a letter and pay 39 cents to mail it, you'll probably put some effort into the letter. You also probably won't just query every agency in existence because it costs money, so you'll look into which agents are in which markets and narrow it down to people who are actually interested in your genre.
Most of the queries we get over email (my boss does accept them, and some unscrupulous sites list agents' emails anyway, so every agent gets them) do not stick to form to the point where it becomes obvious that the author has put absolutely no thought into the email and has just summed the book in a paragraph rife with spelling errors like the agent was a casual acquaintance. Plus, we get tons and tons of queries with attachments, which is just fucking annoying, even though every single agent website has "DO NOT USE ATTACHMENTS" like flashing or in bold or in bold and flashing in a floating macro that follows your mouse. Attachments take time to open, because they require a matching program, and we have to scan them for viruses, and for G-d's sakes, just put the text in your email.
The general rule is: If you can find the agent's email address on a major website (like AgentQuery.com), it's safe to send an email query, but be professional about it. And yes, you can put the first couple pages below the text if you want; that's no skin off our backs.
I would be interested to know what your agency's stance is on email, whether you accept email queries or not. Many agent's emails are listed on agents.query even when they don't accept email submissions. I've heard writers having success contacting those agents anyway.
It seems to me that if an agency is really serious about new writers, they ought to be accepting emails rather than snail mail exclusively. I'm disappointed but I think it's great when a well-known agent emails back & says, no thanks. I'd take a quick no over a 3 months of not hearing any day.
Then's there is the question of pasting in a couple pages or a chapter at the bottom of an email query. Some agents request this, others don't. I know etiquette says don't do it if not requested. But if the agent/assistant is on the fence, then the sample may tickle their fancy. If they were going to reject you anyway, they won't bother reading....
The answer to your initial question varies widely from agency to agency. Four or five years ago, when an agent said they weren't taking email queries, it didn't mean they didn't own a computer. It just meant they didn't use it for work and didn't want to. Now most agents do use computers for work - to contact other agents, clients, editors, and whoever. More and more publishing houses are talking to agents through email. More and more revisions of a manuscript are being sent as an email attachment. In a year or two, it will basically become essential for an agent to have a computer in their office and use it for work.
Queries are a different manner. Initially, agents were against them. Sometimes we feel like it's removing that one last barrier between us and unwanted submissions by idiots who haven't thought out their material and haven't researched how to present it. I mean, if you have to print out a letter and pay 39 cents to mail it, you'll probably put some effort into the letter. You also probably won't just query every agency in existence because it costs money, so you'll look into which agents are in which markets and narrow it down to people who are actually interested in your genre.
Most of the queries we get over email (my boss does accept them, and some unscrupulous sites list agents' emails anyway, so every agent gets them) do not stick to form to the point where it becomes obvious that the author has put absolutely no thought into the email and has just summed the book in a paragraph rife with spelling errors like the agent was a casual acquaintance. Plus, we get tons and tons of queries with attachments, which is just fucking annoying, even though every single agent website has "DO NOT USE ATTACHMENTS" like flashing or in bold or in bold and flashing in a floating macro that follows your mouse. Attachments take time to open, because they require a matching program, and we have to scan them for viruses, and for G-d's sakes, just put the text in your email.
The general rule is: If you can find the agent's email address on a major website (like AgentQuery.com), it's safe to send an email query, but be professional about it. And yes, you can put the first couple pages below the text if you want; that's no skin off our backs.
Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Why a Publishing House Kills a Novel, Responses
So have you any strategies a motivated author might try to get the buyers interested? Bribes? Gatherings where they can pitch their book themselves?
Writer a great book.
Seriously, that's all you can do. You're not involved in that part of the process.
Writer a great book.
Seriously, that's all you can do. You're not involved in that part of the process.
Sunday, October 15, 2006
Why a Publishing House Kills a Novel
Rejecter, I've had friends get promised the world when a NY house wanted their book only to see the publicity push never materialize. That's hardly a sign of a bad book or a bad writer. No one hardly knew the book was out there. I'd be interested in your take on this.
I've never worked in a publishing house, but I know enough people who have or actively do to presume to be able to answer this question. The answer is complicated and involves one of the last links on the chain towards publication - the "buyer" for the bookstore.
Today, most books are sold by large chain stores, the really big ones being Barnes and Noble, Borders, and that other big one that we don't have on the east coast. All of these book store chains have corporate headquarters that contain people called buyers. These are the people that decide how many copies (if any) the stores will be carrying. Usually there's at least one buyer per genre and/or region. There's the person in charge of buying sci-fi, the person in charge of buying romance, the person in charge of buying literary fiction, etc.
After the publishing house has committed to publishing a novel (i.e. it has signed a contract) but before it commits to how many copies it will produce and how much publicity money it will spend, it produces a few "proofs" - paperback, coverless copies of the text that are sent to reviewers and buyers. From them the house gets a general feeling for how many copies the big chain stores are going to buy. In a cyclical manner, that then determines how much copies the publishing house will put out and how much money it will put into advertising the book. There's no reason to advertise a book if it's not readily available on the shelves at Barnes and Noble if you want to sell a book in Manhattan. Preferably, it should be somewhere up front, in "new fiction." In other words, if the big chains' buyers aren't interested in your book, you are screwed, and the publishing company will drop you down on its list of priorities like you smell of dead skunk.
Part of the agent's job is to make sure this doesn't happen. A competitive agent who truly cares about the material will be talking up the book to buyers and stores. A year before the book is even published, they'll be mentioning it at lunches with editors so that they don't forget about their own project, and shoving proofs in the hands of reviewers so they can get some blurbs. They might hire a publicity agent or do some publicity themselves. But in the end, there's very little the agent can do if the publishing house losses faith in the book for any reason and decides to bury it.
And that is the sad story of the little book that couldn't.
I've never worked in a publishing house, but I know enough people who have or actively do to presume to be able to answer this question. The answer is complicated and involves one of the last links on the chain towards publication - the "buyer" for the bookstore.
Today, most books are sold by large chain stores, the really big ones being Barnes and Noble, Borders, and that other big one that we don't have on the east coast. All of these book store chains have corporate headquarters that contain people called buyers. These are the people that decide how many copies (if any) the stores will be carrying. Usually there's at least one buyer per genre and/or region. There's the person in charge of buying sci-fi, the person in charge of buying romance, the person in charge of buying literary fiction, etc.
After the publishing house has committed to publishing a novel (i.e. it has signed a contract) but before it commits to how many copies it will produce and how much publicity money it will spend, it produces a few "proofs" - paperback, coverless copies of the text that are sent to reviewers and buyers. From them the house gets a general feeling for how many copies the big chain stores are going to buy. In a cyclical manner, that then determines how much copies the publishing house will put out and how much money it will put into advertising the book. There's no reason to advertise a book if it's not readily available on the shelves at Barnes and Noble if you want to sell a book in Manhattan. Preferably, it should be somewhere up front, in "new fiction." In other words, if the big chains' buyers aren't interested in your book, you are screwed, and the publishing company will drop you down on its list of priorities like you smell of dead skunk.
Part of the agent's job is to make sure this doesn't happen. A competitive agent who truly cares about the material will be talking up the book to buyers and stores. A year before the book is even published, they'll be mentioning it at lunches with editors so that they don't forget about their own project, and shoving proofs in the hands of reviewers so they can get some blurbs. They might hire a publicity agent or do some publicity themselves. But in the end, there's very little the agent can do if the publishing house losses faith in the book for any reason and decides to bury it.
And that is the sad story of the little book that couldn't.
Form Rejections
Do you send form rejections for all the manuscripts rejected? Do you or the agent ever write personalized rejection letters?
It varies from agency to agency. One place I worked at had a letter that we would send back in the SASE. My current job involves writing a note on the bottom of the query letter itself and sending that back. You can argue amongst yourselves whether a full form letter or a personal form note in the assistant's handwriting but with the agent's name is best, but they mean the same thing: "No."
Agents have different standards. Some do personal replies after rejecting a partial request, or at least use a special "partial" form letter, but some agents only do a personal rejection after a full was requested. This is for the sake of time. That, and we actually like writers and want to let them down easy. "Thanks for submitting, but I don't think I'm right for this" sounds a lot nicer than the actual answer, which is usually, "Wow, that sucked." In other words, you don't want to know what we're really thinking. A writer myself, I am acutely aware that writers have insanely soft skins and will take every last word personally. I do it, you do it, everyone does it, because any writer, good or bad, pours their heart and soul into their manuscript. Rejection is a hard thing to take. I still struggle with getting rejected (which I do - when my material isn't good enough). It hurts. But it actually isn't personal; we just don't like your writing, and we want to let you down easy. That's what the form letter is for.
On occasion, I am allowed to personalize rejections with a P.S., if the rejection is just because the author hasn't done their homework and needs a push in the right direction. If the novel is below 60K, we might circle the word count and write "too short." If it's in a genre we don't represent, we might write, "P.S. We do not represent _____ fiction." It saves them the trouble of re-querying (which rarely works anyway) and tells them that they need to focus a bit more on the material they're putting out and whom they're sending it to. Despite the name of this blog, our overall goal is to help writers get published, or we wouldn't be working in this industry.
I will end this post with a story of one my hilarious mistakes that I was sure was going to get me fired. One day at the first agency I worked for, I opened a package that contained a whole folder full of material, from the query to the bio to a synopsis to a partial and a business card that matched the whole color scheme. This wasn't particularly unusual and generally means I get a brand new folder! Yay! So I sent our form rejection because the material was bad, and thought nothing of it. Then about a week later, my boss asks me, "Did you reject So-and-so?" Since I have no memory for names, she had to tell me that it was a blue binder and apparently this guy was an old friend of hers and he called her because he was pissed at his impersonal form rejection. As realization dawned, I noticed that we hadn't tossed the material in the trash yet (as he only sent an envelope with enough postage for a one-page SASE, meaning no return of his other materials). I produced it and argued my case - that he hasn't at any point anywhere in his folder mentioned once that he knew my boss. He just assumed she was going to see it and recognize his name. Unfortunately that's not the way agencies work, and I rejected it because it made no reference to the personal connection. Fortunately for my career, she understood and told him she still had the material, and it was all a misunderstanding. (By the way, the material was really bad and she rejected it, but she did it personally)
In other words: If you know the agent personally, please mention that in the opening letter. People lose their jobs over this sort of thing.
It varies from agency to agency. One place I worked at had a letter that we would send back in the SASE. My current job involves writing a note on the bottom of the query letter itself and sending that back. You can argue amongst yourselves whether a full form letter or a personal form note in the assistant's handwriting but with the agent's name is best, but they mean the same thing: "No."
Agents have different standards. Some do personal replies after rejecting a partial request, or at least use a special "partial" form letter, but some agents only do a personal rejection after a full was requested. This is for the sake of time. That, and we actually like writers and want to let them down easy. "Thanks for submitting, but I don't think I'm right for this" sounds a lot nicer than the actual answer, which is usually, "Wow, that sucked." In other words, you don't want to know what we're really thinking. A writer myself, I am acutely aware that writers have insanely soft skins and will take every last word personally. I do it, you do it, everyone does it, because any writer, good or bad, pours their heart and soul into their manuscript. Rejection is a hard thing to take. I still struggle with getting rejected (which I do - when my material isn't good enough). It hurts. But it actually isn't personal; we just don't like your writing, and we want to let you down easy. That's what the form letter is for.
On occasion, I am allowed to personalize rejections with a P.S., if the rejection is just because the author hasn't done their homework and needs a push in the right direction. If the novel is below 60K, we might circle the word count and write "too short." If it's in a genre we don't represent, we might write, "P.S. We do not represent _____ fiction." It saves them the trouble of re-querying (which rarely works anyway) and tells them that they need to focus a bit more on the material they're putting out and whom they're sending it to. Despite the name of this blog, our overall goal is to help writers get published, or we wouldn't be working in this industry.
I will end this post with a story of one my hilarious mistakes that I was sure was going to get me fired. One day at the first agency I worked for, I opened a package that contained a whole folder full of material, from the query to the bio to a synopsis to a partial and a business card that matched the whole color scheme. This wasn't particularly unusual and generally means I get a brand new folder! Yay! So I sent our form rejection because the material was bad, and thought nothing of it. Then about a week later, my boss asks me, "Did you reject So-and-so?" Since I have no memory for names, she had to tell me that it was a blue binder and apparently this guy was an old friend of hers and he called her because he was pissed at his impersonal form rejection. As realization dawned, I noticed that we hadn't tossed the material in the trash yet (as he only sent an envelope with enough postage for a one-page SASE, meaning no return of his other materials). I produced it and argued my case - that he hasn't at any point anywhere in his folder mentioned once that he knew my boss. He just assumed she was going to see it and recognize his name. Unfortunately that's not the way agencies work, and I rejected it because it made no reference to the personal connection. Fortunately for my career, she understood and told him she still had the material, and it was all a misunderstanding. (By the way, the material was really bad and she rejected it, but she did it personally)
In other words: If you know the agent personally, please mention that in the opening letter. People lose their jobs over this sort of thing.
Thursday, October 12, 2006
In Defense of Agents and "Bad" Literature
I don't know, rejecter, the problem with so many agents and publishers is that you're interested in selling self-consuming artifacts (you went to Brown, you'll recognize that _expression) with a brief shelf-life. You equate sales with success. Stephen King had good commercial success with his early novels -- does anyone read them now? Buy them now? How about John Grisham? How about Wallerstein and Bridges Over Madison County (god what an awful book).
I read an interview that Andrew Wylie gave with La Monde where he described his method as trying to bring literature to the fore. He said that he pretty much despised Dan Brown and didn't care that 70% of the publishing world wanted more Dan Browns. There's an agent I'd give my left nut to have represent me, someone actually interested in literature and the contribution it can make to the culture, not only now but years from now.
First of all, Stephen King has had a lot of commercial success recently with both his fantasy Dark Tower series and his new horror/sci-fi novel Cell. He also writes regular columns for Entertainment Weekly. John Grisham's book The Innocent Man is currently #2 on the Amazon.com website in bestselling books. I can't remember off the top of my head if Wallerstein has written anything recently, but every writer has dry years and bad books. Some writers only have a certain number of books in them and either start producing crap or just stop writing pretty much altogether (J. D. Salinger, America's favorite non-writing writer)
In terms of equating sales with success, that's true and not true. The publishing industry is so tough that if you want to be a multiple-book writer, you have to have a significant early success, because you will be judged on the sale of your earlier material. If your first book is a flop, or doesn't do well enough to recoup publishing costs, your career with that publishing company is probably dead and the agent will have to take your future books to other companies, who will know that. For people who just wanted to write one great novel and get it published, that's not really an issue, but an agency can't have a giant list of one-book authors. It needs a stable of authors who regularly produce publishable material.
Most agencies have a varied book list. While the agent loves every book on that list, the public might not, and the agent is aware on this. A good agency (financially) will have a stable (and we do use this term) of authors who, like I said, regularly produce books (about every 1-3 years) that sell for significant advances (over $20,000). The stable will probably be relatively small, depending on how successful those authors are. One author can carry an entire agency for years. Then there's the others on the list, who aren't commercially successful, or are first-book authors who got a first-book advance (around $5000-7000), of which the agency got 15%. They get to stay on the list because the agency is floated by the stable authors, and the agent can afford to take on a new author who might have terrific material that just won't reach a huge audience.
For all of the criticism of agents representing what some people consider bad literature, nobody has bothered to inquire what other books Dan Brown's agent (if he has one) is representing.
I read an interview that Andrew Wylie gave with La Monde where he described his method as trying to bring literature to the fore. He said that he pretty much despised Dan Brown and didn't care that 70% of the publishing world wanted more Dan Browns. There's an agent I'd give my left nut to have represent me, someone actually interested in literature and the contribution it can make to the culture, not only now but years from now.
First of all, Stephen King has had a lot of commercial success recently with both his fantasy Dark Tower series and his new horror/sci-fi novel Cell. He also writes regular columns for Entertainment Weekly. John Grisham's book The Innocent Man is currently #2 on the Amazon.com website in bestselling books. I can't remember off the top of my head if Wallerstein has written anything recently, but every writer has dry years and bad books. Some writers only have a certain number of books in them and either start producing crap or just stop writing pretty much altogether (J. D. Salinger, America's favorite non-writing writer)
In terms of equating sales with success, that's true and not true. The publishing industry is so tough that if you want to be a multiple-book writer, you have to have a significant early success, because you will be judged on the sale of your earlier material. If your first book is a flop, or doesn't do well enough to recoup publishing costs, your career with that publishing company is probably dead and the agent will have to take your future books to other companies, who will know that. For people who just wanted to write one great novel and get it published, that's not really an issue, but an agency can't have a giant list of one-book authors. It needs a stable of authors who regularly produce publishable material.
Most agencies have a varied book list. While the agent loves every book on that list, the public might not, and the agent is aware on this. A good agency (financially) will have a stable (and we do use this term) of authors who, like I said, regularly produce books (about every 1-3 years) that sell for significant advances (over $20,000). The stable will probably be relatively small, depending on how successful those authors are. One author can carry an entire agency for years. Then there's the others on the list, who aren't commercially successful, or are first-book authors who got a first-book advance (around $5000-7000), of which the agency got 15%. They get to stay on the list because the agency is floated by the stable authors, and the agent can afford to take on a new author who might have terrific material that just won't reach a huge audience.
For all of the criticism of agents representing what some people consider bad literature, nobody has bothered to inquire what other books Dan Brown's agent (if he has one) is representing.
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
Sub Rights
My first novel is in print and will remain in print with a small publisher who uses print-on-demand through Booksurge. Distribution has been limited to Amazon and my publisher’s website. My publisher retains first rights and has not pursued the sale of subsidiary rights but has encouraged me to contact agencies to see if I can find an agent who’d sell subsidiary rights. The agents I’ve contacted so far have stated simply that they don’t represent books already in print with a publisher. I’ve been advised to try to sell first rights to a larger publisher, but they’re not mine to sell. Any suggestions? My novel explores a timely topic (interracial families) with which I have personal experience. It’s received good reviews, including one from Girl on Demand at POD-dy Mouth. Thanks for any insights you can offer.
This isn't my area of expertise, but the response you've gotten from agents isn't surprising. Nobody wants to pay a POD publisher rights to a book they're bothering to represent/republish. The big publishing companies won't bite, so there won't be decent money involved.
Look carefully at your contract with the POD publisher and see when their hold on first rights expires. It may be as short as a year. For suggestions on how to get out of a contract with a POD publisher, I would talk to Miss Snark.
This isn't my area of expertise, but the response you've gotten from agents isn't surprising. Nobody wants to pay a POD publisher rights to a book they're bothering to represent/republish. The big publishing companies won't bite, so there won't be decent money involved.
Look carefully at your contract with the POD publisher and see when their hold on first rights expires. It may be as short as a year. For suggestions on how to get out of a contract with a POD publisher, I would talk to Miss Snark.
My Anti-MFA Rant
Your MFA class anecdote was very interesting - and also tends to weaken your contention to some extent, as I'm guessing some of these MFA students will end up in the publishing side of the business.
So I'm in my second year as an MFA student and people ask me all the time, "What do you guys do with your degree when you graduate?" Well, I'm halfway through the program and I haven't figured that out. Some go on to be college professors of creative writing, which is what the degree qualifies you for. Some had their fun and go on with their normal lives. Some actually write.
In general, high level and mid-level MFA programs, not lesser ones from an online school, promote a type of writing known as "literary fiction." In the publishing world, this is known as "unsellable." Most of my professors have written books I've never heard of and went out of print years ago on whatever small press they were printed on. You've got the occasional Pulitzer Prize winner, but chances are you've only got a few of those in the entire history of the program and yet these programs are churning out more and more writers each year, most of whom will not go on to any real commercial success.
There is a significant difference from what most people read and what is supposedly "great literature." Most of the fiction that has been successful in the last 30 years falls rather neatly into a genre. There is high-end fiction available on the front shelves at Barnes and Noble - Lovely Bones and The Color of Water and the like - but there's also a lot of Dan Brown. This isn't because people are stupid. This is because people want to enjoy the books they read and for the most part, people don't want to read heavily-worded 400 page rants about how miserable the author's life is.
When I was an undergrad at Brown taking creative writing workshops, I was usually one of two people who wasn't writing about a college student who was gay and smoked and described their house a lot. There'd usually be one other person in the class who would try something different, but that was about it. The main comments I got were, "Well, I actually enjoyed reading this, but it's not, like, really good stuff." I don't know. If you enjoyed it, I think I succeeded as a writer.
Once, just to piss off a professor, I wrote a story about gay vampires who smoked and had a torrid love affair beyond the other vampires' backs. I wrote this thing as a joke, but the professor got really into it, and so did the class. I couldn't figure it out, but it was really funny. Oh man, I'm still laughing about that.
What I'm getting at after rambling for a while is that the "literary world" - populated by unpublished MFA students and professors who were published once in the 1970's - is a different world from the publishing one. When the two meet and you get something that's high end and you want to read, you get a Pulitzer Prize winner. They like that sort of thing. One of my MFA professors is on the Pulitzer board. But the two do not meet very often.
(I'm a little temperamental about this because my professors often yell at me for writing stuff that's "too commercial" or "too genre-y" and then I have to take time away from my actual manuscript to write a rambling story about myself. Unfortunately I don't smoke nor am I gay or even having regular sex, so it's really hard)
So I'm in my second year as an MFA student and people ask me all the time, "What do you guys do with your degree when you graduate?" Well, I'm halfway through the program and I haven't figured that out. Some go on to be college professors of creative writing, which is what the degree qualifies you for. Some had their fun and go on with their normal lives. Some actually write.
In general, high level and mid-level MFA programs, not lesser ones from an online school, promote a type of writing known as "literary fiction." In the publishing world, this is known as "unsellable." Most of my professors have written books I've never heard of and went out of print years ago on whatever small press they were printed on. You've got the occasional Pulitzer Prize winner, but chances are you've only got a few of those in the entire history of the program and yet these programs are churning out more and more writers each year, most of whom will not go on to any real commercial success.
There is a significant difference from what most people read and what is supposedly "great literature." Most of the fiction that has been successful in the last 30 years falls rather neatly into a genre. There is high-end fiction available on the front shelves at Barnes and Noble - Lovely Bones and The Color of Water and the like - but there's also a lot of Dan Brown. This isn't because people are stupid. This is because people want to enjoy the books they read and for the most part, people don't want to read heavily-worded 400 page rants about how miserable the author's life is.
When I was an undergrad at Brown taking creative writing workshops, I was usually one of two people who wasn't writing about a college student who was gay and smoked and described their house a lot. There'd usually be one other person in the class who would try something different, but that was about it. The main comments I got were, "Well, I actually enjoyed reading this, but it's not, like, really good stuff." I don't know. If you enjoyed it, I think I succeeded as a writer.
Once, just to piss off a professor, I wrote a story about gay vampires who smoked and had a torrid love affair beyond the other vampires' backs. I wrote this thing as a joke, but the professor got really into it, and so did the class. I couldn't figure it out, but it was really funny. Oh man, I'm still laughing about that.
What I'm getting at after rambling for a while is that the "literary world" - populated by unpublished MFA students and professors who were published once in the 1970's - is a different world from the publishing one. When the two meet and you get something that's high end and you want to read, you get a Pulitzer Prize winner. They like that sort of thing. One of my MFA professors is on the Pulitzer board. But the two do not meet very often.
(I'm a little temperamental about this because my professors often yell at me for writing stuff that's "too commercial" or "too genre-y" and then I have to take time away from my actual manuscript to write a rambling story about myself. Unfortunately I don't smoke nor am I gay or even having regular sex, so it's really hard)
Science-based Fiction and What's Publishable
Question:
On the fiction side of things, is the goal of writing "publishable" fiction to produce something that will please agents and editors, or something that the public will find worthwhile? I'm not entirely convinced these are always the same thing.
On the fiction side of things, is the goal of writing "publishable" fiction to produce something that will please agents and editors, or something that the public will find worthwhile? I'm not entirely convinced these are always the same thing.
An agent's job is to sell the manuscript to a publisher who is enthusiastic about it and will put time and money into promoting it as much as possible. The editor's job is to make sure it's something the public will want. (Often this involves editing) The publishing company then has the job of marketing the book correctly to get it in bookstores and publicize it so the public knows it exists and buys it. The job of every person in the publishing industry is to make sure books sell. We do it because we care about the books. (We certainly don't do it for the money. It's a particularly low-paying industry) We want to put books out that are good and people will enjoy.
There have been a couple scattered cases where a book was great but not publishable. Someone along the line will probably recognize this and kill the project (usually the head of editorial department, who has the most to lose by having a book fail). In these rare cases, it's usually because that particular market isn't doing well. After Katrina, we were pretty much rejecting everything related to New Orleans, hurricanes, or Katrina. The timing wasn't right. But it's hard to say to an author, "Look, this is just the right novel at the wrong time." At the end of the day, publishing houses have to make money to pay the salaries of their employees - and pay you, the author. They can't do that if they go under because none of their books sold more than the cost of overhead for putting out the book.
Then there's the cases of books that we just miss the boat on. There's that famous story of how John Grisham got rejected everywhere and self-published his first novel or something and it became a huge hit, so some company picked it up. Stephen King tells young authors that he still has a giant stack of rejections sitting in a drawer in his office. But, usually, these authors succeed eventually (as the case with John Grisham and Stephen King).
You don't survive in the publishing industry unless you know what you're doing. For the most part our judgment of whether a book is good or bad is probably right.
I keep encountering agent and editor blogs and interviews where they state they personally have to fall in love with a book to pursue publishing it. There's only a few hundred people in these positions and I suspect they generally share the same educational and cultural backgrounds and interests.
It is true that an agent feels like they have to love the book to take it on. Honestly, you don't want an agent who doesn't love your material. They won't care. They'll shelve it. They won't sit down with the big editors for 3-hour lunches to pitch it, they won't try to get a bidding war going between publishers for it (which is good for you in terms of $), and they won't worry about how the publishing company is promoting it. You want to be the agent's numero uno priority.
It is NOT true that agents share the same educational and cultural backgrounds and interests. You can't be an agent unless you're fairly widely read in just about every genre, because you have to know books and markets. Agents are male or female, black and/or white. Some own dogs and some own cats and some own poodles that pee all over the shared carpet. (Not Miss Snark, if that's what you're thinking) Agents follow their interests based on the paragraph above, because they do have to love the manuscript, but they know all about the market and what's going on in just about every market. YA is very hot right now. Everyone predicts that Westerns will come back but they never do. Everyone's chilling off on thrillers related to the Vatican. Things like that are things agents pay close attention to.
But in the end, it just comes down to the agent loving your manuscript and wanting to see you in print.
One example is the integration of science within fiction (not SF). There's very little of it. (Basically, just Michael Crichton). This is despite the fact that a lot of key issues right now (global warming, genetics, pollution, etc.) are steeped in science - and fiction is a wonderful way to gain understanding and perspective. I'm curious if the strong literary background one is likely to have in fiction publishing (which makes sense) might also mean that science and techology isn't much of an interest for the agent and/or editor. And does this in turn mean that a query for fiction incorporating science is less likely to pass muster, even if on an important topic?
Michael Crichton is an interesting case. He actually went for a master's in English, and dropped out, saying his class was "filled with aspiring English teachers." He wanted to write, which was different, and MFA programs did not proliferate at the time, so he went to school to learn about what he wanted to write about, which was medicine. So he went to medical school. That was a very unconventional thing for him to do, but he was always essentially a writer. He was just doing research. Not all of his books are science-based - Rising Sun is a good example of that. It's a book about Japanese culture in America during a time when the Japanese had a very successful economy and were buying up companies in the States. It has almost nothing to do with science at all. Or The Great Train Robbery, which is about a train robbery. Science is not really involved beyond what's necessary for robbing a train.
He's a writer, pure and simple. A really terrific writer - and you can debate for yourself whether he is or isn't one - can write about anything. It just might require research.
Science is a tough topic to fictionalize because it's not something non-scientists encounter on a regular basis after leaving high school. Chances are they'll have to deal with accountants, lawyers, truck drivers, whoever - but chances are, your average Joe does not encounter very hard science a lot except when there's a hot issue connected to it (like the environment, which is why Al Gore's book An Inconvenient Truth is a bestseller. It's also a good book) And there are very few scientists who are writers. The scientific field does not train you to be a fiction writer. It's something you have to learn on your own. If you have a degree in a scientific field, you've written some papers and maybe defended a thesis, but that doesn't mean it was a page-turner.
Most scientists or people who know a lot about science go into science fiction because science is essentially about discovering things, and new possiblities are what fiction is all about, so people like William Gibson and Neal Stephenson go nuts describing all of the crazy cybornetic possibilities of the future. It may or may not happen, but it's an interesting read.
As for math, the only interesting math book I've ever read was Flatland, which was a truly bizarre experiment in fiction that worked.
Here's a question for illustration: If presented with two roughly equal query letters about a thriller - one dealing with a stolen rare book and taking place in an upscale NY suburb, and a second dealing with water rights and taking place near Phoenix, Arizona - is one query more likely than the other to pass through the gate?
No. We don't care where it takes place. We care that it's an interesting book. If it uses the place setting to its advantage, great. Otherwise, it doesn't show up on our radar. A lot of fiction seems to take place in New York because a lot of writers live in New York, and because New York is one of the most ethnically diverse cities in America and a lot happens here to write about. But to be perfectly honest, we're all a little sick of New York-based fiction. Or at least I am, because I'm in an MFA program where everyone writes about living in New York. I once wrote a short story that took place in Victorian England and people just didn't get it. It was like a foreign concept to them. It was one of my more frustrating fiction-workshop moments.
Write about whatever you want to write about. Put your heart and soul into it, and make it shine. If you succeed, we'll love it. Otherwise, we won't, and that's the bottom line.
Tuesday, October 10, 2006
My Favorite Things #1
I'd like to start with my favorite of all: people who use "lesbian" as an adjective.
Let's be clear about this. I have no problem with gay-themed fiction or non-fiction. In fact, I read a lot of it in the fan fiction world. What I am referring to the case where the protagonist is something else, and the male author (because the author is always, always male in this case) feels the need to add that she is lesbian. There is the lesbian militant. The lesbian detective. The lesbian vampire. The lesbian psychic. The lesbian psychic detective. (I've seen it) Man, those lesbians are out there, doin' things, probably having sex at least once in the book I'm guessing, as we never request this kind of material. I'm sure there's a shower scene that wasn't totally necessary to the plot. Thanks, male author!
The greatest query letter ever would be about a militant lesbian psychic vampire who solves crimes. And by "greatest" I mean "worst."
Let's be clear about this. I have no problem with gay-themed fiction or non-fiction. In fact, I read a lot of it in the fan fiction world. What I am referring to the case where the protagonist is something else, and the male author (because the author is always, always male in this case) feels the need to add that she is lesbian. There is the lesbian militant. The lesbian detective. The lesbian vampire. The lesbian psychic. The lesbian psychic detective. (I've seen it) Man, those lesbians are out there, doin' things, probably having sex at least once in the book I'm guessing, as we never request this kind of material. I'm sure there's a shower scene that wasn't totally necessary to the plot. Thanks, male author!
The greatest query letter ever would be about a militant lesbian psychic vampire who solves crimes. And by "greatest" I mean "worst."
Monday, October 09, 2006
Surprise! We make mistakes.
(This) happened to me several months ago, when an assistant and I traded emails at a NY literary agency. They loved the query; "send us your first chapter." They loved the first chapter or so I was told; "send us your full." The next day, I received an email, "Sorry, but we found the writing confusing, best wishes, etc." I was printing the last section of the full manuscript at that moment. Really can't describe the haze of the next five minutes, but I remember some use of colorful language was involved.
This is one of the few cases where I would actually recommend contacting the agency to ask what happened, because this sounds like a case of miscommunication.
For the most part, assistants do not request partials. Agents do. I can only remember one or two instances where I nudged an agent into requesting a partial when he/she didn't want to, and it ended ultimately in rejection for that person.
My guess here - and this is a real guess - is that the second email was a mistake email. We try not to do it, but it happens. Envelopes get stuffed with rejection letters when they shouldn't, SASEs get lost, the agent hits the auto-reject reply button on her mail program to the wrong email. I always double-check that the name on the query matches the name on the envelope of the person I'm rejecting, but I'm human. In our office there's a stack of mysterious SASEs that don't seem to have matched any query letter we had. Everyone screws up at their job once in a while, including agents and their assistants.
If you queried multiple agents with a good letter, you should get more than one positive reply, so it shouldn't be a huge worry. If you tell me you queried 100 agents and this was the only positive, I would say something's wrong with your material. So one screw up at one agency is not going to mean that you will never get published. And if you have reason to believe there was a mistake made because something just doesn't make sense, feel free to email the agency. We're incredibly apologetic about these sorts of things because we feel bad about them.
This is one of the few cases where I would actually recommend contacting the agency to ask what happened, because this sounds like a case of miscommunication.
For the most part, assistants do not request partials. Agents do. I can only remember one or two instances where I nudged an agent into requesting a partial when he/she didn't want to, and it ended ultimately in rejection for that person.
My guess here - and this is a real guess - is that the second email was a mistake email. We try not to do it, but it happens. Envelopes get stuffed with rejection letters when they shouldn't, SASEs get lost, the agent hits the auto-reject reply button on her mail program to the wrong email. I always double-check that the name on the query matches the name on the envelope of the person I'm rejecting, but I'm human. In our office there's a stack of mysterious SASEs that don't seem to have matched any query letter we had. Everyone screws up at their job once in a while, including agents and their assistants.
If you queried multiple agents with a good letter, you should get more than one positive reply, so it shouldn't be a huge worry. If you tell me you queried 100 agents and this was the only positive, I would say something's wrong with your material. So one screw up at one agency is not going to mean that you will never get published. And if you have reason to believe there was a mistake made because something just doesn't make sense, feel free to email the agency. We're incredibly apologetic about these sorts of things because we feel bad about them.
What are your chances, really?
I have a question about standard business practice at agencies. Is it common for someone in your position to put something in the "maybe" pile and then have the agent reject it outright? Have you read any great submissions that your boss then rejected?
Actually, most of the maybe pile is fairly immediately rejected. I would say about 95% of the letters are initially rejected by me. The other five percent are passed on to my boss, who then rejects most of them immediately, leaving about 1% that she actually makes requests for partials from. Of those partials, most are rejected.
A good agency will only take on a couple new clients a year. If you read Jeff Herman's Guide to Literary Agents, his listings indicate that most agencies say they accept 1% of their submissions. Actually the number much lower, but it's rather hard to calculate because it varies widely year-to-year.
Even the best agencies have good years and then dry spells. A good year is when at least one person on the client list has hit the NY Times bestseller list and/or gotten a large advance, large enough to pay out for the agent, who only gets 15%. A dry year is when the agent's "stable" of clients are not turning in new material that's publishable or going for big money. It's usually during a dry year that the agent freaks out and takes on a bunch of new clients in hopes that at least one them will take off.
None of this affects you in a way you can predict. The best thing to do is write a good novel and cast a wide net. If your material is publishable, you will get some bites.
A good agency will only take on a couple new clients a year. If you read Jeff Herman's Guide to Literary Agents, his listings indicate that most agencies say they accept 1% of their submissions. Actually the number much lower, but it's rather hard to calculate because it varies widely year-to-year.
Even the best agencies have good years and then dry spells. A good year is when at least one person on the client list has hit the NY Times bestseller list and/or gotten a large advance, large enough to pay out for the agent, who only gets 15%. A dry year is when the agent's "stable" of clients are not turning in new material that's publishable or going for big money. It's usually during a dry year that the agent freaks out and takes on a bunch of new clients in hopes that at least one them will take off.
None of this affects you in a way you can predict. The best thing to do is write a good novel and cast a wide net. If your material is publishable, you will get some bites.
Sunday, October 08, 2006
The Basics, Continued
It sounds like you immediately toss the query if it doesn't follow the described format.
I don't, actually. If you wrote a complete novel, took the time to write up a query letter to a professional literary agency, and paid for the postage, I feel soundly that the whole letter should be read. (Plus, it doesn't take me a long time to read a 1 page letter)
If you have a sound manuscript and are capable of conveying that somewhere in the letter, I'm willing to forgive a few spelling, grammatical, or formatting errors. Nobody's perfect, or maybe the author didn't really do much research on how to write a query letter and spent more time focusing on perfecting their novel - a better idea in the long run. Or, there's the occasional abomindable query letter with excellent credentials that just goes into the maybe pile immediately. ("I won the Booker Prize for Short Fiction, had my previous book turned into a movie, and my previous agent was at William Morris but died recently and I need a new one.")
My job is to sniff out quality material. Sometimes the query letter isn't perfect but the concept is interesting enough for me to pass it on and my boss to request it. However, it's best to give yourself every possible advantage by polishing your query letter, because many agencies will NOT give you the time of day if you even call your manuscript a "fiction novel." Many assistants and agents are looking for a reason to reject and will take any. In short, try not to screw up, but if you have a great book, you will probably get some offers even if there's a spelling mistake somewhere.
If the format is followed, what part of the letter convices you to put it in the maybe pile?
Jon Piper
I get this question a lot, and the answer is always, "It sounds like a really good book." Since there's no one right way to write a great book, I can't really tell you that way. I can only tell you the wrong way to present it. Sorry.
I don't, actually. If you wrote a complete novel, took the time to write up a query letter to a professional literary agency, and paid for the postage, I feel soundly that the whole letter should be read. (Plus, it doesn't take me a long time to read a 1 page letter)
If you have a sound manuscript and are capable of conveying that somewhere in the letter, I'm willing to forgive a few spelling, grammatical, or formatting errors. Nobody's perfect, or maybe the author didn't really do much research on how to write a query letter and spent more time focusing on perfecting their novel - a better idea in the long run. Or, there's the occasional abomindable query letter with excellent credentials that just goes into the maybe pile immediately. ("I won the Booker Prize for Short Fiction, had my previous book turned into a movie, and my previous agent was at William Morris but died recently and I need a new one.")
My job is to sniff out quality material. Sometimes the query letter isn't perfect but the concept is interesting enough for me to pass it on and my boss to request it. However, it's best to give yourself every possible advantage by polishing your query letter, because many agencies will NOT give you the time of day if you even call your manuscript a "fiction novel." Many assistants and agents are looking for a reason to reject and will take any. In short, try not to screw up, but if you have a great book, you will probably get some offers even if there's a spelling mistake somewhere.
If the format is followed, what part of the letter convices you to put it in the maybe pile?
Jon Piper
I get this question a lot, and the answer is always, "It sounds like a really good book." Since there's no one right way to write a great book, I can't really tell you that way. I can only tell you the wrong way to present it. Sorry.
The Basics
Dear Rejecter,
What do you look for in a query letter? What causes you to request an ms?
Jon Piper
Let's go over the basics once and for all.
The query letter is actually a fairly simple letter of introduction that is so stylized that you only have to worry about the first 1-2 paragraphs. It's when people vary from the norm that gets them in trouble, though having a bad novel idea helps too. The letter should look like this:
Dear [Mr./Ms.][Agent's Last Name],
[1-3 Paragraphs introducing your manuscript. It's not so much a summary as an enticement to read the material. Imagine that you are writing a book jacket that is meant to entice potential readers to spend up to $20 on your book. It should hit key plot points, but should not be a summary of what happens. This section of the query should be the best material you've ever written in your life, because it is basically what we judge your work by. Fortunately, if you are a terrific writer with a terrific novel, it shouldn't be hard. The problem is that most people aren't terrific writers. Oh, and don't make it more than 3 paragraphs, quote the text, or list characters unnecessarily]
[1 paragraph containing these these VERY important items:
Let's go over the basics once and for all.
The query letter is actually a fairly simple letter of introduction that is so stylized that you only have to worry about the first 1-2 paragraphs. It's when people vary from the norm that gets them in trouble, though having a bad novel idea helps too. The letter should look like this:
Dear [Mr./Ms.][Agent's Last Name],
[1-3 Paragraphs introducing your manuscript. It's not so much a summary as an enticement to read the material. Imagine that you are writing a book jacket that is meant to entice potential readers to spend up to $20 on your book. It should hit key plot points, but should not be a summary of what happens. This section of the query should be the best material you've ever written in your life, because it is basically what we judge your work by. Fortunately, if you are a terrific writer with a terrific novel, it shouldn't be hard. The problem is that most people aren't terrific writers. Oh, and don't make it more than 3 paragraphs, quote the text, or list characters unnecessarily]
[1 paragraph containing these these VERY important items:
- Title of manuscript (Having only a working title or no title is the sign that you haven't thought out your manuscript)
- Word count (page numbers mean nothing to us)
- Genre (Don't lie. Your sci-fi novel is not contemporary fiction. And don't include multiple genres to try to make it seem like it will be a crossover hit. I've done that in my own queries and it looks stupid)
- Significant Writing Credentials (And writing a column in your town's newspaper about the annual street fair doesn't count, even if it is technically published. If you don't have any, just ignore #4 and move on)
- Referral Info (If you're querying because you were told to by the agent themself or a client of the agent, you could mention it here or on the first line of your query, your choice)
- Biographical Information Immediately Pertaining to Your Manuscript (Important ONLY for non-fiction. Includes: professional research done for material or things in your personal life that led you to write it. Let me repeat: This is only important for non-fiction.)
- Some last line about "thanks for reading" and that your completed manuscript is ready for submission. ]
...And there you have it. Don't make it longer than one page and/or four paragraphs. We bore easily.
For more on query formatting, check out AgentQuery's site, or numerous others on the internet. Don't spend money on a book just on query letters. I have a couple, and they're all pretty bad and expensive.
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